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Would a woman ever really stand a chance in full-contact martial arts combat against a male martial artist?

On the news today, it was announced that two sisters in China who are professionally-trained Kung Fu masters are hosting a tournament to find themselves future husbands. The tournament allows potential suitors to demonstrate their archery, weight-lifting, and combat skills. The catch is that a potential suitor (and yes, i hate the term "suitor" too) must defeat one of the sisters in full-contact one-on-one combat. The lucky guy will then be able to remove one of the sisters' masks and see her face for the first time. Only men who are able to defeat the Kung-Fu master sisters will be able to date either one of them.

I posted something about this to my Facebook wall this morning, and it seems there are two very different opinions of whether it is even possible between men and women. One man commented that it would not even be a fair fight, since male bodies are more designed for combat and women are no match for men with raging levels of testosterone. However, a woman that is trained in the martial arts quickly pointed out all of vulnerabilities of the male body, saying that for a woman who is professionally trained, it is highly possible.

I want to know what other people think. Is this a fair fight at all? Do these women even stand a chance of defeating some or even all of these guys. We are talking about men and women who are professionally-trained fighters and martial artists. We don't usually see women fighting men in MMA, but should we?

Here is a link to the original story on Time: http://newsfeed.time.com/2010/10/12/want-to-date-these-kung-fu-sisters-youll-have-to-fight/
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jdhatred | 1 year, 7 months ago
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I started to look up info to support the claim of women being capable of doing so... and was surprised at my findings.
My first argument was going to be women have a higher pain tolerance.
http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=97662&page=1
http://people.howstuffworks.com/women4.htm

...ok. Then women are smarter! That's been well documented...
http://www.livescience.com/health/060908_brainy_men.html
http://www.newsweek.com/2008/01/22/he-s-not-as-smart-as-he-thinks.html
Hmm... a toss up.

What about faster? Any martial artist film buff knows there is a running theory of women being faster...
http://www.pponline.co.uk/encyc/women-faster.htm
https://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/30/health/nutrition/30Fitness.html?_r=1
Ah ha! There it is!

Well, I pulled a mixed bag today. But, ever dedicated to the greatness that is "Woman", I did scare up a few bits of info directly related to women and martial arts.

What I got from it:
A martial artist is taught to understand their weakness and problem solve their way around it. People can 'size you up' but will not know exactly how you have been trained when looking at you, even a fighter. You on the other hand do know how you were trained and if trained properly, know how to avoid exposing your weaknesses or use them to bait the enemy in. After all, knowing where someone is going to strike you after being formally trained is a huge advantage.

Final word from Hatred: yes, if a woman is trained to take a man down, she can. (link in source)
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albanian | 1 year, 7 months ago
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The difference between male and female humans in most physical contests is statistical not absolute. In other words, the average man can beat the average woman. But, a top percentage woman can beat a lower percentage man. I expect the same is true of martial arts, although I doubt any scientific studies have been done. I would expect the women to beat a small percentage of martial arts guys, and a large percentage of untrained guys.

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kty2777 | 1 year, 7 months ago Report

I'll leave this here to add to your answer albanian. This is one top notch female and one self-styled bar room brawler: Sunshine Fettkether vs Randy Pittman.

http://www.womenkickboxing.com/fettkether_pittman.htm

Her stats: http://www.womenkickboxing.com/sunshinebio.htm

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coltech88 | 1 year, 7 months ago
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I think that you are not familiar with advanced martial arts skills. Fighting skill in the various Chinese martial arts doesn't have to be forceful to be effective. Regarding Tai Chi Chuan and other internal martial arts like Ba Gua, the skill of the most advance practitioners is not based on physical strength. Having a lot of testosterone and muscle bulk can actually slow one down and cloud a fighters perception, as compared to a martial artist trained to remain calm and focused. A relaxed body can move a lot faster than a tense body and they can use their qi more effectively, not soley relying on mechanical skills and balance to obtain advantage.

There are some women that do have these advanced skills and, if a woman has the time to devote to their development, their skill level can exceed that of many male martial artists.

While I know nothing personally of the two women fighters that are mentioned, I believe it possible that they may have more than a fair chance of winning against a male opponent because of these reasons.
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kty2777 | 1 year, 7 months ago Report

Might not be the best fighting style ( its a grappling match ) but hey, she wins!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jue7_27D9_8

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garyallen | 1 year, 7 months ago
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Well, I followed the link to the story.

It doesn't say anything about the relative (or even actual) size of any of them. Freshman year of college, I had a classmate who lived in an all-female high-rise. In her building lived an Olympian and apparently future WNBA player:

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No training could make it a fair fight between me and a tall athletic woman

This one in particular,while not in martial arts, is 1/2 ft+ taller than I am.

However, Martial Arts doesn't necessarily depend on size and strength. I'm just a wuss.

It is certainly possible the sisters could mop the floor with the guy.

A thought: The article says "Sisters Xiao Lin, 22, and Yin, 21, decided to skip Match.com and instead stage a three-day fighting festival in their region of Foushan, located in southeast China."

Foshan is in the Guangdon Province. Guangzhou is the capital city of the Guangdon Province.

I visited factories in Guangzhou, maybe even Foshan. I was apparently in Guangdong in 2002.

"Guangzhou will enthrall you with its charm and culture. Foshan is recognized as the "Oriental Art's Palace" integrating pottery statue, woodcarving, brickcarving, foundry, architecture and Yue Opera."

I don't remember seeing any jdate.com or match.com billboards there.
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m2ponce | 1 year, 7 months ago
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Martial arts is very different from just plain boxing and fighting. If you match the same weight class of a female and a male in boxing, chances are the male will prevail because of an advantage in strength. But in martial arts it is totally different. Martial arts is mastering a style in combat, knowing your opponent's weakness and at the same time using your own strengths to compensate your weakness. Martial arts rely on speed, technique, concentration and mastery. It is very possible a black belt female can defeat a black belt male. However, what we see in MMA or UFC is also for entertainment purposes. Fighters are there to compete, be a champion and get the support from the crowd. MMA and UFC fights are made to be violent to make it entertaining to the audience. For example, the match of George St. Pierre against Dan Hardy was mostly perceived as a boring fight because 90% of the time GSP overwhelmed Hardy with his takedowns, which was exposed as Hardy's weakness. It was not entertaining to watch but GSP used a technique he thinks will be best to get the win. Having a female fight a male in MMA will be a violent fight and we would not want to see a woman being beaten up by a guy on TV, in case the woman is overwhelmed by the man using a technique in martial arts.

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sunshine09 | 1 year, 7 months ago
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When I was growing up, and yes we were younger, I had a friend (female) the took Krate classes every Saturday and she was a very short girl, but she could whip some **s. I bekieve it all depends on the traing that you recieve and how often you practice. Because it does take alot to become a black belt. I do believe that a woman could beat a man in a comptition like this one all depends on her strength and what she knows.

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jentyree | 1 year, 7 months ago
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I dont see why a woman could not win, if she was trained and knew what she was doing, if the man was in the similar weight class and training - they why wouldn't she win?

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