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The "War on Terror" will end when we do. Or when we forget. My last source is an article about why Obama should end the War on Terror. However, I can't see him doing that. He wants to pull as much national support as possible and ending the war on terror, as brutally pointless it may seem, would inflame a portion of the population that is already not too keen on him.
I can see Obama dialing it down to a point where it'll be an Imaginary War of Ideology, but it will still exist in the same mythical way it was proposed and will likely do so for a while.
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http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1101030526-452770,00.html
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2007/Pentagons_number_two_suggests_terror_war_...
http://www.salon.com/opinion/kamiya/2008/11/25/obama_war_on_terror/
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Everyone might think the war will be over the day Bush leaves office, but one small terrorist attack, no matter who is in office, and the American people will demand a forceful response.
Terrorists have the upper hand as long as we are scared. The war on terror will be over when you can carry water bottles and swiss army knives on planes again. Our security is not effective on the small scale and these rules only perpetuate the fear already in society. Get rid of the pointless rules (no fly list here I come!) and the fear will subside. When the fear subsides people will be more rational and will end the war on terror.
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Am I the only one who has ever considered that America sure like to declare a lot of wars on abstract things.... "War on drugs", "War on poverty", "War on crime". Ever wonder why that is? How about declaring peace once in a while. America has been in a constant state of war, one way or another, since it's founding. That is pretty scary.
The sad reality is that during times of war, citizens tolerate more repression from government, and social changes are slipped through in the chaos. The point of all wars, whether they are arranged by governments (that are usually working together, not hostile as they appear), or wars which can not be won (because they are on ideas or perceptions), is control.
When you can manipulate the populations level of fear, you can better control people. The U.S. government actually designed a "terrorism threat level" color system, so you'll always know just what level of fear you should have. And cultivating fear, is of course, the definition of terrorism. Funny coincidence, don't you think?
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From meeting with Afghan tribes and other middle eastern people, military's, and rogues. The mindset is that western civilization and it's culture is looking to push out and take over their resources. Enslave them to the life of western civilization. Just as most Americans think that radical Islamists are out to take over and push out / kill all Christians. So those mindsets are now put into play and makes war more of beliefs rather than wealth or power. Just as in history (think the crusades) past these wars are not looked at as your basic country vs country warfare. To some this is a threat to their own religious believes, family values, and even their right to life.
When you add up those prevalent combination's things tend to become very personal. From the father, mother, son, and other generations of family it does become a means of survival and heritage. Eventually along the lines of this never ending conflict things become about revenge.
So to quote my old SF Group Commander, Col. Maholland, I will retire out of this war but my kids, kids will be fighting it still. Even after I'm buried. See if you think about it like this, if they were to kill or capture Bin Laden. It will not matter (for the moment in time yes it will) in the long run, he will become old news. Someone will rise in his place to continue the work and pursue power, violence, all for the justification of their beliefs or personal agenda.
So even if things seem quiet, behind the curtain they will not be. It will not be as covered as these past conflicts were. People will die no matter what their chosen professions are and the only way it will be brought into the limelight once again would be due to another major disaster.
No longer is war truly about rising to power and military might. Now it has become a matter of ideology, for some religious beliefs, but either way you look at it. This and most future conflicts are going to be defined as "who is truly right ethically, morally, and culturally." I hope I helped you attain a answer for the question that was asked.
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Special operations career, operation enduring freedom 1, 5th Special forces group (A),
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I am assuming from the question that you are thinking of Islamic terrorists. While Islamic scholars differ on this, the radical or bomb making wing sees the world as either "The House of Islam" or the "House of War" ie the western culture. The West, which promotes such profane concepts as equality of the sexes, freedom of religion and democracy is contrary to radical Islam. There is no middle ground in this view and untill such time as either they run out of money to carry their agenda to the West or there is a fundimental change in conservative Islamic views.
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http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-English-A...
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December 16, 2008 08:37 PM
When do you think the "War on Terror" will end?
Dick Cheney said in an interview with ABC that torture (sorry, enhanced interrogation techniques, or whatever you call em these days) are appropriate and that Guantanamo Bay should stay open until the war on terror is over.
Considering "Terror" is not a group of people but a word you find in a dictionary, when exactly will this "war" end?
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-cheney16-2008dec16,0,4327689.story
http://abcnews.go.com/WN/story?id=6464919&page=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuXEDrDFhr4
Considering "Terror" is not a group of people but a word you find in a dictionary, when exactly will this "war" end?
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-cheney16-2008dec16,0,4327689.story
http://abcnews.go.com/WN/story?id=6464919&page=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuXEDrDFhr4
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| December 16, 2008 09:47 PM |
I can see Obama dialing it down to a point where it'll be an Imaginary War of Ideology, but it will still exist in the same mythical way it was proposed and will likely do so for a while.
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http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1101030526-452770,00.html
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2007/Pentagons_number_two_suggests_terror_war_...
http://www.salon.com/opinion/kamiya/2008/11/25/obama_war_on_terror/
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lang
December 17, 2008 01:11 AM
Perhaps the portion of the population that aren't so keen on Obama would be the perfect demographic to arm and send to continue the War on Terror - Maybe they should just be conscripted, then I'm sure their twisted perspective would change.
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December 16, 2008 09:57 PM
I guess it has to do with the obsession America has with outdoing the competition. Me personally I fought and served in A-stan which was part of the conflict which I did agree with (had Bin Laden only struck military / government targets my thoughts would be different) I did not agree with out motives to move into Iraq next. I have been in country a few times there before this war kicked off to look for odd "activities" and never saw a darn thing. this I feel makes it completely unjustifiable in relation to policy. But at the beginning of the Iraq war, even though I disagreed with it, I would find myself cheering it on as the media showed pictures of Soldiers liberating cities and such. I don't know maybe it's because I am a veteran myself. Or maybe because most people are trying to support the troops regardless of their own opinions of the war.
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December 16, 2008 08:39 PM
Half past never, plus never minutes and never seconds. As long as the president feels he has to prove something about his mettle to the "blue collar" republicrats that helped vote him in, he'll have to show he can fight a good war, like a republican would. It's sad when your society is dictated by the "working man" and not necessarily the "educated man", who could clearly deduce that we won't win a war on terror and work on our defense rather than offense.
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December 16, 2008 08:45 PM
The War on Terror is definitional. I think, to most Americans, it meant "War on those responsible of 9/11" Unfortunately, that war was abandoned in favor of an unrelated war in Iraq. Since that didn't go too well, we threw in other conflicts, and "Terror" came to apply to anyone fighting against us or our allies. But I think if we ever get Bin Laden, most people will consider that chapter closed.
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December 16, 2008 08:45 PM
The war on terror will continue as long as terrorism exists and is effective . . . in other words never. Everyone might think the war will be over the day Bush leaves office, but one small terrorist attack, no matter who is in office, and the American people will demand a forceful response.
Terrorists have the upper hand as long as we are scared. The war on terror will be over when you can carry water bottles and swiss army knives on planes again. Our security is not effective on the small scale and these rules only perpetuate the fear already in society. Get rid of the pointless rules (no fly list here I come!) and the fear will subside. When the fear subsides people will be more rational and will end the war on terror.
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December 16, 2008 09:12 PM
Terror is a feeling.... Declaring war on a feeling is strange enough, but what better way to keep in fear of terrorism, than by reminding them of it constantly using militaristic rhetoric like "war on terror". Am I the only one who has ever considered that America sure like to declare a lot of wars on abstract things.... "War on drugs", "War on poverty", "War on crime". Ever wonder why that is? How about declaring peace once in a while. America has been in a constant state of war, one way or another, since it's founding. That is pretty scary.
The sad reality is that during times of war, citizens tolerate more repression from government, and social changes are slipped through in the chaos. The point of all wars, whether they are arranged by governments (that are usually working together, not hostile as they appear), or wars which can not be won (because they are on ideas or perceptions), is control.
When you can manipulate the populations level of fear, you can better control people. The U.S. government actually designed a "terrorism threat level" color system, so you'll always know just what level of fear you should have. And cultivating fear, is of course, the definition of terrorism. Funny coincidence, don't you think?
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December 16, 2008 09:24 PM
From my personal experiences in the military's Special Operations Command this will be a never ending war. "Generational warfare" is part of the terminology which I heard coined many, many times. You see this war has been going on for a very long time. It's only now due to the ability of the internet and media that this type of warfare has fully been introduced in full scale to the public. That is excluding the events of 9-11 From meeting with Afghan tribes and other middle eastern people, military's, and rogues. The mindset is that western civilization and it's culture is looking to push out and take over their resources. Enslave them to the life of western civilization. Just as most Americans think that radical Islamists are out to take over and push out / kill all Christians. So those mindsets are now put into play and makes war more of beliefs rather than wealth or power. Just as in history (think the crusades) past these wars are not looked at as your basic country vs country warfare. To some this is a threat to their own religious believes, family values, and even their right to life.
When you add up those prevalent combination's things tend to become very personal. From the father, mother, son, and other generations of family it does become a means of survival and heritage. Eventually along the lines of this never ending conflict things become about revenge.
So to quote my old SF Group Commander, Col. Maholland, I will retire out of this war but my kids, kids will be fighting it still. Even after I'm buried. See if you think about it like this, if they were to kill or capture Bin Laden. It will not matter (for the moment in time yes it will) in the long run, he will become old news. Someone will rise in his place to continue the work and pursue power, violence, all for the justification of their beliefs or personal agenda.
So even if things seem quiet, behind the curtain they will not be. It will not be as covered as these past conflicts were. People will die no matter what their chosen professions are and the only way it will be brought into the limelight once again would be due to another major disaster.
No longer is war truly about rising to power and military might. Now it has become a matter of ideology, for some religious beliefs, but either way you look at it. This and most future conflicts are going to be defined as "who is truly right ethically, morally, and culturally." I hope I helped you attain a answer for the question that was asked.
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Personal Experience , first hand knowledge from speaking with multiple nationalities.
Special operations career, operation enduring freedom 1, 5th Special forces group (A),
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December 16, 2008 09:27 PM
The "War on Terror" will not end with the end of the Bush adminstration. So long as people (and I use the term loosely here) are willing to kidnap, maim, kill and abuse the general public in the name of a "cause" those who protect the general public will always be at war with terror. I am assuming from the question that you are thinking of Islamic terrorists. While Islamic scholars differ on this, the radical or bomb making wing sees the world as either "The House of Islam" or the "House of War" ie the western culture. The West, which promotes such profane concepts as equality of the sexes, freedom of religion and democracy is contrary to radical Islam. There is no middle ground in this view and untill such time as either they run out of money to carry their agenda to the West or there is a fundimental change in conservative Islamic views.
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http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-English-A...
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December 16, 2008 10:04 PM
Unfortunately, the "War on Terror" began the first time one man came up with a strategy to "terrorize" his fellow caveman to get something he wanted, and it will continue as long as mankind itself continues to use terror to avenge their ideals and beliefs.
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December 16, 2008 10:05 PM
If we're lucky, the American people will wake up and realize that we have been duped by the Bush administration and will stop supporting the WoT. The real agenda behind the WoT is to break Americans into unquestioning submission to authority. How many people would have been willing to take off their shoes at the airport 20 years ago? Now people do it without thinking just because the government said we need to. If government said we need to let them inspect our houses for contraband, would we let them do that too?
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December 16, 2008 10:54 PM
Considering that terror exists all over the planet, in various forms (even here in the United States!! -- ever heard of environmentalist terrorism?), we do not have the capability of stopping it completely. Due to that, it will likely never end until after Christ's second coming and the damnation of non-believers to hell -- of which we neither know the time nor day.
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December 17, 2008 01:07 AM
Whoa! Steady on there edd - more people have died in the name of *insert religion here* than anything else.
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December 17, 2008 01:24 AM
lang, I don't see how anything I said could have been interpreted to be to the contrary of your assertion. Certainly, some *religions* are nothing more than organized terror.
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December 17, 2008 01:39 AM
I think you took me wrong. Tone never seems to translate over to text so well in just a few sentences. It was just the "damnation of non-believers to hell" bit... Sort of thing that can stir up a whole righteous hornets nest ;)
As for "Certainly, some *religions* are nothing more than organized terror..."
You've obviously travelled to Glasgow and witnessed an Old Firm game!
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As for "Certainly, some *religions* are nothing more than organized terror..."
You've obviously travelled to Glasgow and witnessed an Old Firm game!
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