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Working without a timer IC.

I can't find the 7555 timer IC (or any other IC for that matter) in my locality.
Is it possible to accomplish what is happening here,
http://www.kpsec.freeuk.com/projects/dummy.htm
with just resistors, capacitors without using the 555 timer IC.
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rangerx52 | 1 year, 5 months ago
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The Ne555 IC is made by many different manufacturers, so you should be fine with almost any chip with 555 in the name, an alternative is the 556, which is a dual-555 ic package that has 2 separate 555 circuits in it.

A resistor/capacitor oscillator still requires an outside pulse in order to oscillate, so you would need a much more involved circuit to make it standalone. If you wanted to try your hand at it, try the colpitts oscillator circuit
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colpitts_oscillator

OR you could make an Astable circuit. An Astable can be made with just afew caps, resistors and transistors. very easy, very tidy. This is basically one of the 555's modes- it operates as either an astable or monostable oscillator.
http://www.play-hookey.com/digital/experiments/rtl_astable.html

Might have to experiment to find a suitable oscillation rate for your purposes, but it will work,

Enjoy

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whitephoenix | 1 year, 5 months ago Report

Thank you. Your answer was very helpful.

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zzzomb | 1 year, 5 months ago
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You don't need a 555 for timing. You will need transistors though.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2221/2390102103_4923f7c3a6.jpg

The 10k resistors control how long it takes for the capacitor to charge up which then feeds to the transistor, which then criss crosses to another identical circuit. This circuit flashes 2 leds alternately. However you dont have to switch on led's. You can switch whatever you want.

You could for example feed a tone generator, which also doesnt require a 555 timer.
For example:
http://www.aaroncake.net/circuits/torgan.asp
You switch your power through 1 of 8 resistors which determines which musical note is heard.

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whitephoenix | 1 year, 5 months ago Report

Thanks a lot. :)

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rangerx52 | 1 year, 5 months ago Report

any particular reason i was awarded best answer to this question, and suddenly my answer vanishes, and is replaced by yours depicting the same style of astable circuit i suggested?

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brock_lee | 1 year, 5 months ago
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Also, if its time that you're worried about, Digikey is extremely quick, ~48hrs in the U.S. and the same or only slightly longer overseas.

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tomahawk640 | 1 year, 5 months ago
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You could use a microcontroller, but that may be getting a bit too advanced for something this simple. You can find that 7555 on ebay, digikey, or allied electronics.

I know this doesn't answer your question regarding whether or not you can use just resistors and caps, but you can save some time by just ordering the chip online.

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galody | 1 year, 4 months ago
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It has been claimed that the 555 gets its name from the three 5 kΩ resistors used in typical early implementations,but Hans Camenzind has stated that the number was arbitrary.The part is still in wide use, thanks to its ease of use, low price and good stability. As of 2003update, it is estimated that 1 billion units are manufactured every year.Depending on the manufacturer, the standard 555 package includes over 20 transistors, 2 diodes and 15 resistors on a silicon chip installed in an 8-pin mini dual-in-line package (DIP-8). Variants available include the 556 (a 14-pin DIP combining two 555s on one chip), and the 558 (a 16-pin DIP combining four slightly modified 555s with DIS & THR connected internally, and TR falling edge sensitive instead of level sensitive).Ultra-low power versions of the 555 are also available, such as the 7555 and TLC555.
The 7555 is designed to cause less supply glitching than the classic 555 and the manufacturer claims that it usually does not require a "control" capacitor and in many cases does not require a power supply bypass capacitor. It has been claimed that the 555 gets its name from the three 5 kΩ resistors used in typical early implementations,but Hans Camenzind has stated that the number was arbitrary.The part is still in wide use, thanks to its ease of use, low price and good stability. As of 2003update, it is estimated that 1 billion units are manufactured every year.Depending on the manufacturer, the standard 555 package includes over 20 transistors, 2 diodes and 15 resistors on a silicon chip installed in an 8-pin mini dual-in-line package (DIP-8). Variants available include the 556 (a 14-pin DIP combining two 555s on one chip), and the 558 (a 16-pin DIP combining four slightly modified 555s with DIS & THR connected internally, and TR falling edge sensitive instead of level sensitive).Ultra-low power versions of the 555 are also available, such as the 7555 and TLC555.
The 7555 is designed to cause less supply glitching than the classic 555 and the manufacturer claims that it usually does not require a "control" capacitor and in many cases does not require a power supply bypass capacitor.Further reading:http://www.seekic.com
http://www.chinaicmart.com

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