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Why in this century is it only when you flash a degree people listen to you even though you are highly knowledged about a subject without it

Ive posed a question for one simple reason, I am so im called a walking information bank of knowledge but I just see myself as someone who was curious to learn. why is it that we need a piece of paper a degree to prove we have knowledge so people believes us and work comes our way, now I know there are many many ways people have created jobs without having any degrees and have become well off and millionaires but also they are the ones shooting people down saying if you dont have a degree you dont get the job. But ive research back over many many year and in history for thousands of years and none of this ever was there not the medicine man or carpenter or writer or fisherman or metal worker or shop keeper or ship builder and so on they all were thought by who was around not if you dont have money im not teaching you sure trading was done but nothing to the extreme. most in history and so forth learned old school they were out and learned for themselves but today if anyone tries to get up in the world there is someone or something using wealth as a concept of mind to keep them tied down on a mass global scale. so why is it in our century have we let it be this way when we all could really be helping one another as scientifically spiritually or what ever way you want to look at it we are all made of the same stuff all mostly from the same lands or ancient civilizations and most likely related in some manner so why is it we need now to prove we are knowledged if we can prove it to someone right in front of there faces or by typing it on paper but they still hold it agaist someone saying no not without having this degree which again cost hundreds maybe even thousands to get a piece of paper that says hey now I know this subject but you knew it already 6yrs ago but had to break your heart and soul to get a piece of paper and you may end up in a job that pays you less a year then you had to pay the college or what ever double for to get that piece of paper so people will except what you are saying, because now in writing from some concept someone gives you a letter with a signature "a signature" that only now allows you to say NOW you can go out and play doctor.
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aaronfalloon | 2 years, 11 months ago
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You don't need a degree but you have to be able to prove that you're as smart as you say you are. The easiest way to prove it, unfortunately, is with a degree.

The people who get to the top without a degree are the people who have the guts to just get out there and do. They prove that they're capable of doing things by other means.

If you can provide proof that you're good at what you do, then you don't need a degree because a degree would just be more proof.

A big debate in the programming community is currently wheather or not you need a degree. Have a look at the link I've attached about the argument.

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silverhammer | 2 years, 11 months ago
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It is true what you say.

The only justification for that final signature I can find is that while YOU know you know and other people may know you know, it's like a jury of your peers is willing to put their name on the line to back up your claim.

Your claim to know is compared to a standard of baseline knowingness and once it's publicly verified a person has met those standards it is generally accepted that everyone can trust you've met the criteria for knowing.

I was using CBT (cognitive behavioral therapy) to help people when I was a Sophomore in High School back in 1978 (before Clark & Barlow). But I never got the training, never pursued a degree and therefore am not allowed to practice and get paid the big money to help people. I didn't even know what I was doing was called CBT.

Doesn't mean I wasn't good at it or that people weren't helped from it. It just means that there are others who have put in the sweat and proof of their ability while I was too lazy (and poor) to do it myself.

I can appreciate the need for a jury of my peers validating my claims. It sucks it costs so much to get that and how much seemingly unrelated topics have to be mastered at the same time. But I can appreciate it.

I'm sure you'd be more likely to see a Dr. with a M.D. at the end of their name than someone who SAYS they know it all. Doesn't mean you've found the best person, but it's a good place to begin. :)

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green_chilli | 2 years, 11 months ago
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Degrees are there to offer standards and regulations.

If you believe in what you are doing, you should go for it and work it out by yourself if people won't offer you a start.

Getting a degree is a process of jumping through hoops, but there are a lot of other things that you learn in while your doing it, and these aren't written on your certificate.

Such as communication and persuasion skills, analyzing and critiquing skills.

Anyone can learn a lot of information from a book, rote learn and recite.
But can you also apply that in a way that is beneficial to you and to others?

If you do have all the information already, getting certified in your chosen field shouldn't be to much of an issue, as you'll find all the coursework fairly simple.

good luck!

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