Who would you rather build a team around, Kobe Bryant or LeBron James? (Contest Question!)
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Scenario 1: Assessing both players right now in the Status Quo as Individual Players
If you had to make your pick right now for starting a franchise, there is no doubt the choice must be Lebron James. The one determining factor is simple: It is all about age.
Although Kobe is only 31. It is an "old 31" considering he is one of the first players to make the leap from high school to the pro's. Let's just look at the numbers.
Counting playoffs, Kobe has played 44,377 NBA minutes. What does this mean? Kobe Bryant has already played more minutes than Larry Bird, who retired at 36 having played 41,329 minutes. This is mindboggling if you think about it. And the reality remains, Kobe only has about three more years at best to continue playing at the level he is at right now.
Now lets look to Lebron. He is only 25 years old and is already averaging better statistics than Kobe. The scary part is, most people believe he hasn't reached his ceiling. Lebron has at least 8 more years of dominating the game and will be on his pursuit for another title in no time.
Verdict: Lebron James
Scenario 2: Assessing both players right now in the Status Quo on their Respective Teams
If you had to make the pick for which player/team you want to go with. They easy choice is Kobe Bryant with the Lakers. The core 6 players of the team are signed for the next three years. The way they are demolishing the Phoenix Suns and manhandled the Utah Jazz, the Lakers pose a strong chance for a three-peat in the near future. Kobe can finish his career off with a possible 6-8 Rings.
While Lebron...who know's where he goes. It seems he reached his ceiling with the Cavaliers by continually getting bounced with early exits. More importantly, if Lebron jumps ship it will take at least one year for the team dynamics to be set in order to make another run at the Finals.
When taking all of this into consideration, championships are clearly the most important factor when it comes to an NBA Owner. Kobe Bryant right now is on the verge of getting ring number 5 and more importantly is lined up for the next three years to make a similar run.
Verdict: Kobe Bryant
Scenario 3: Assessing both players right now in the Status Quo as Fantasy Players
Is there really a debate here? LEBRON LEBRON LEBRON. He is already putting up better statistics than Kobe and should in the near future challenge Oscar Roberston in becoming only the second player in NBA history to average a triple double over a season. If you really want to know the stats in regard to fantasy feel free to google Lebron vs Kobe Fantasy Stats. I am sure Hollinger would weigh in on the Efficiency rating of each player as well.
Verdict: Lebron James
Scenario 4: Assessing both players as Rookies (IE when they both entered the NBA)
This will be a little difficult since we have a little more data on Kobe Bryant, so to make it as fair as possible, we will assess the first 7 years of each players career.
Championships are the strongest arguments Kobe can provide in this debate. By the time he was 25, Kobe has THREE fool-proof arguments here. The counterpoint is that Kobe had the most dominant big man in the game and a team that was well built.
Lebron has 2 MVP's in his first 7 years, but 0 championships. I can tell you one thing for sure, Lebron would trade both of his MVP's for just one Championship Ring of Kobe's. Lebron will be the first to tell you that team accomplishments will always trump individual accolades. The issue here is Lebron has squandered his last two attempts for a championship. Getting bounced not only last year, but this year as the Eastern Conference favorites. This is almost inexcusable. For a player of his caliber, he needs to execute and get to the finals. Plus he even had the best team surrounding him in his latest march to the top. But again he faltered. I am sure Lebron would switch shoes with Kobe at this stage of his life even though he is winning the statistical debate in the first seven years of each players career..
REGULAR SEASON
James Bryant
Games 514 496
Minutes 20,763 16,826
Min. avg. 40.4 33.9
FG % .474 .456
FT % .741 .831
3-Pt. % .332 .332
Points 14,236 10,658
Pts. avg. 27.7 21.5
Rebounds 3,607 2,458
Reb. avg. 7.0 5.0
Assists 3,482 2,060
Ast. avg. 6.8 4.2
Steals 894 714
St. avg. 1.7 1.4
Blocked shots 445 320
Blk. avg. 0.9 0.6
Turnovers 1,692 1,339
TO Avg. 3.3 2.7
Verdict: Kobe Bryant
Scenario 5: Assessing Each Players Legacy
What will both of these players be remembered for?
Kobe Bryant has 4 Championships ring, considered by many already to be the greatest Laker ever, has a great change of acquiring 3 more rings, also one of the best clutch players of all time.
Lebron James...might possibly go down as THE GREATEST PLAYER OF ALL TIME to never win a championship. His career parallels a similar great in another sport. Anyone heard of Dan Marino? One of the greatest arms to ever hit the NFL and also one of the greatest to never win a Championship. Lebron still has a lot of years to develop his legacy and win that championship. But if I have to answer the question right now, I have to go with the sure bet. We all know who Kobe is and what he has brought to the game.
Verdict: Kobe Bryant
I know there are maybe 100 more scenarios we can play through but I wanted to focus on the ones that had greater emphasis and were easier to break down statistically and logically. In the end the debate is clear and Kobe Bryant is the pick for me. I am a big fan of taking the stronger or sure bet. My weighing mechanism focuses a lot on NBA championships as this is always the end goal of every single player in the NBA.
Hopefully this helps clear up the debate and maybe we will have a clearer answer when both players come to an end of their illustrious careers. In the meantime, Lebron just needs to hope that he can add a ring to his own collection...If not, Kobe will always have a leg up irregardless of statistics.
Simply stated...BLING IS KING. All you have to do is look at Kobe's hand for the answer in the end.
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M$But my many years of playing basketball, coaching and watching the actual NBA games will tell me that building a fantasy team will need a lot of pondering so as to speak. But please allow me to raise some questions before I will come up with a final choice in the end:
1. Built to win championships. We build a team to win right. What is the use of building a team and spending lavishly if this goal will not be met at the end? Disaster as it is if our objectives will just fall like house of cards. Look now at the situation of Cleveland Cavaliers, they have enough firepower to win this year’s championships, but for the second straight year the Cavaliers’ dream of hoisting the most sought after basketball trophy vanished in thin air. If there is a player that is teeming with championship experience I will put my marbles on him, since he was there been before and experience will tell him how to win again and again and again (an exclamation). A player with championship ring(s) will no doubt commands great price when he enter free agency, how much more if he is a legitimate superstar. If Experience and exposure are concerned I’ll put my money on Kobe Bryant of the Los Angeles Lakers.
2. Immediate impact. You need someone to make things turn around on your side right away unless you are building a developmental team. A player that will instantly turn his team into an instant contender is definitely a treasured gem. Both players showed over the years that they are capable of making their own team be a serious contender. In this category Bryant has a slight edge.
3. Attitude. Definitely Cavalier LeBron James leads on this category since he is humble, down to earth and loves to thrive on teamwork. Bryant learnt the value of teamwork when he gets older. He even criticized older superstar players like John Stockton and Karl Malone, during his younger years as a basketball player, which is a show of immaturity and lack of respect to future Hall of Fame players.
4. Talent. Kobe Bryant is more of an unstoppable player and is truly packed with high-octane offensive skills. Recently he become more of a team player and learn the value of what an assist can give to a team just few years back. James on the other hand is also a force to reckon with, in terms of scoring, just like Bryant he has a plethora of moves that will surely break any defense thrown on him en route to an easy field goal or an electrifying dunk. In this category James have the edge why? Why can dish our assist with relative ease, can grab more rebounds than Bryant and a decent defender which is a rarity in a player that is respected for his scorching scoring ways.
5. Future. James is versatile and talented, and he has more years to shine even further than Bryant (if in case these two great players will not experience injuries, you can never tell, though). The future is promising for any team that has the young and promising yet still improving James on its lineup.
6. Popularity. Hmmm, being a famous player means more sponsors, advertisements, fans and tickets sold. Any of these two players will surely make a team become a powerhouse economically and financially. I'd say it is even in this category for both commands great following.
If given the chance to build a team, I will pick someone who is tried and tested, since what matters most is the present and you can never tell what will happen in the future. If ever someone who got sick who do you think he’ll seek some medication? From a seasoned doctor or a very good doctor that just started several years ago? Although both players are great on their own rights my pick is Kobe Bryant because he already proved his worth as a great player, not only once, not only twice, not only thrice but four times already and when all is said and done, his stats and the numerous accolades he already amassed will speak volumes for himself.
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M$I have only seen a couple of games by LeBron James and I can say that he is a great player just like his counterpart Kobe Bryant but I think that he is better than Bryant. He is just 24 years old and already had two full seasons and has better statistics that Kobe who is 30 years old.
He has an average of 25 points and has nearly 8 rebounds and just under 8 assists in every game in his second year in NBA all at the age of 20. He is the youngest player who score 40, got a triple double and start in an all NBA All Star Game and the list is growing in every game that he plays.
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M$There are two sides to every story though. Being that most organizations prefer to build their teams for the long-haul instead of just one or two winning seasons, the age factor may come into this decision. Kobe Bryant has been in the league since 1997 and as with any player, the older you get, the more injuries become a factor regardless of how well you take care of your body. With the being said, LeBron James is only in his seventh year in the league while Kobe is in his fourteenth season. While a LeBron James lead team has only been to the Finals once and has come up short in the playoffs the last couple of years, if you're looking to build a winner for the next six or seven years compared to maybe 2 or 3 more good years with Bryant, then LeBron James is probably the better choice.
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M$I researched their careers on line via various websites and formed my own opinion.
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M$Outside of age considerations, I think you would have to go with LeBron again strictly based on what he brings to a team. He is a great passer, rebounds well, and plays great defense and can really fill a stat sheet. Kobe is one of the all-time great scorers and has to be considered one of the most clutch shooters in the history of the game. Kobe also has the experience and championships that LeBron lacks, and in my opinion he has the drive to succeed that LeBron hasn't fully developed yet.
So ultimately, I would pick LeBron to build a team around, knowing that he is 6 years younger than Kobe and has many more years ahead of him. Also, LeBron's skill set really helps to make everyone on the team better.
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M$Having said that, as someone mentioned previously, LeBron is 25 and Kobe is an "old" 31. The mileage on Kobe's body is starting to creep up on him, which is why he had to miss some games this season. But look at Kobe's past and present supporting cast and tell me why he has four rings: Shaquille O'Neal (who really was the man and Kobe was his wingman during the early 2000s), Robert Horry, Glen Rice, Rick Fox, Derek Fisher, Pau Gasol, Andrew Bynum, Lamar Odom (when he decides he wants to play).
Now, let's look at LeBron's supporting cast: a 57-year-old Shaq. Mo Williams? Delonte West? Anderson Varejao? Daniel "Boo" Gibson? That is indeed scary. LeBron's career now is akin to Kobe's post-Shaq and pre-rebuild era - those lean years in 2005-06 when L.A. barely made the playoffs. Kobe's teammates then were about equal in talent to LeBron's now. But the Cavs are winning 60-66 games. The Lakers were winning 42-45 games.
Give LeBron a Chris Bosh or Derrick Rose/Joakim Noah complement? Then, let's count the rings.
What separates Jordan from Kobe is MJ learned to trust his teammates, letting the likes of John Paxson and Steve Kerr hit the key shots. Kobe trusts Fisher, barely. But the Game 5 win over the Suns in the Western Conference finals Thursday was the perfect example of Kobe insisting on being "the man." He got the ball with 3.5 seconds left, was triple-teamed, admitted later that Grant Hill made him double-pump, and he still tried to launch that 3-pointer to win it. Fortunately for Ron Artest and the Lakers, Kobe was about two feet short. Meanwhile, Fisher was on the baseline on the same side, all alone for an easy baseline jumper to win the game. Kobe never passed the ball.
Kobe was amazing in Game 6 against the Suns to close out the series, but that certainly wasn't what I would consider "team basketball." I can guarantee that if the Lakers are expecting him to be able to do that four times against the Celtics in the finals, the title will return to Boston (Ugh!)
I love Kobe's athletic ability and will to win, but the answer has to be LeBron.
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M$The question should be James or Kevin Durant? Its not, so I will answer the question given.
Kobe has a chance to win one this year and after that every thing is up in the air. Bryant's head coach Phil Jackson is possibly going to be gone next season. The western Conference is much tougher to play throughout the regular season and that plays a factor in the post season (as we saw in '06 Mavs and '08 LA). All reasons to sell on Bryant.
All of the teams James is rumored to go to for next season are in the east, which bodes well for him staying on top.
People become captivated by a player who wins championships. Winning championships is about a team, James has never played with the likes of a Pau Gasol or Ron Artest and never been in a system that has 3 potential hall of famers (Boston Celtics). What we need to look at is the players production, consistency, and age(being the most important). If I am going to invest hundreds of millions of dollars then I want my product to be on the rise.
Look at these players as stocks, are you going to invest all your money in a player that has already peaked and given you max value, or purchase the stock that has shown tremendous promise and can spike at an all time high? Hint-Hint, take option B.
Bryant has 2 - 3 years left of possibly being an elite player, James on the other hand has 10 years left to possibly be one on the best of all time.
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M$If you are playing in a keeper league, there is even less debate. Kobe may have a maximum of five seasons left whereas LJ has at least ten left assuming injuries don't play a major part. I'd have Deron Williams, Chris Paul, Kevin Durant, Dwayne Wade, Dirk Nowitzki, Chris Bosh, Carmelo Anthony, and Amare Stoudemire over Kobe. Heck, i'd go as far to argue that Kobe would not be the most valuable fantasy player on his team.
We have to remember here that Championship Rings are real life stuff. We are talking about Fantasy rings, and the Playoffs don't even count towards Fantasy titles. Who was your regular season MVP this year? LJ right? When I pick next year, if I get first or second, i'm taking Kevin Durant or Lebron James.
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M$I would vote neither. The reason why I say neither is that a team doesn't consist of one player, even though individuals shine in particular moments. Instead I would rather build the team around the coach who can command the respect and loyalty of the players to get them to work together and build a powerhouse. Now if you ask me, Phil Jackson IS that coach. He's simply amazing both on and off the court, and based on what he wrote a few weeks ago, I think @Jason would agree.
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M$Wow, the debate is very interesting about kobe and lebron. Its seems to me everyone over estimating Lebron and under estimating kobe. Let's take the statictics it appears one plays could careless about for an example shooting percentage. And if going to determine skill by statistics maybe we should judge by the degree of difficulty also. Who is provided a clear path to the rim. I believe that's going to slow down a bit after being exposed by the Celtics. First of all they play different position. Rebounding-one player usually have more background responsibility, so naturally the other one going to have less rebounds. One player has the complete game offensively including mid range like tear drops, floaters and runners. One player has the dunking game and the 3 pointer or long two's. I waiting to see how things will turn out for one player, when the league teams watch the celtics film and learn how to shut down the paint(and the Ref's start calling charging) and he's pushed off the three point line and the paint is shut down. One player just by being on the court causes coach's complex decision to be made. The other player although difficult at times, the strategy is to shut the paint down and push him off the three point line if he happens to be hitting them. And by the way all teams have humans however I admit others have a better supporting cast but that doesn't mean you automatically win. I think one of the players team had the best record in the league for two years in a row-no rings. When that team was winning it's all one player-when that team loses it's the teammates. Go figure. I wonder what would have happen if these players were switch around. I think it would be a different outcome. And who is clutch, who do want to have on your team toward the end of the game.
One player has moved to another team, by the way the stats will go down, and as you can already see with the new team just because there is talent doesn't mean you going to win. But that's okay I will give them a pass this year. Let's see what they do next year. It's been 7 years how long are we going to wait for a ring for one player? It will be ten years soon and I guess the excuses and the hype will still be there. Don't get me wrong one player is very impressive a human highlite film, I pulling for him maybe in about three years. People should start paying more attention to Durant and D-wade. So I interested in your comment's








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