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3 years, 2 months ago

Who owns the copyright to the answers we post here? Does being selected as "best answer" change this?

I feel I am in a legal gray area here. One of my answers has been stolen and posted on the Vancouver Sun. What's worse, I have found several sites that have reposted the work and gave copyright credit to the Vancouver Sun. (This really, really annoys me.)

The answer was the transcript I posted of the Jim Cramer interview on The Daily Show Thursday. While I did this for Mahalo, I have not received payment (which would be done if I was selected as best answer). Therefore, at this point, I probably could claim copyright.

At this point, with no best answer chosen, who "owns" the copyright?

If I was selected as best answer, thus receiving payment, would Mahalo "own" the copyright or would I?

Should I be able to request an answer of mine be removed from MA in order to sell/post it elsewhere? (I am not thinking of doing this, just wondering what others think.)

Of course, I am not sure either of us could claim the copyright since it is a transcript of a television episode. All I know is that the Vancouver Sun does NOT own the copyright for the material.
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ssharon | 3 years, 2 months ago
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Intellectual property law is not very simple and so I won't even attempt at giving legal advice here.

Darcy, your question takes something for granted and that is whether your transcript was in fact copyright infringement in itself. The interview wasn't your content and derivative rights might encompass writing a transcript of it.
Ordinarily content you create is owned by you (as in it gains copyright protection automatically), but if this was a derivative work all bets are off. The law was designed to promote the science and useful arts by protecting original works of authorship.

To answer your second question, I don't think being selected as best answer changes anything. Although there is a notion of works made for hire, I would argue that it does not extend to works that were written in the hopes of getting paid. In other words, when a work is made for hire the commitment to payment happens before the work and here it happens afterward. Everything else I have read on the subject (I have taken classes in intellectual property, licensing intellectual property, cyberlaw, cybercrime, and business and technology) agrees with this result.

Darcy, feel free to contact me outside of Mahalo for more details and citations if you would like.

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darcy logan | 3 years, 2 months ago Report

Regarding the work in question, I am not claiming the copyright of it. What I am claiming is that I did the work and they took the work I did and used it without compensating me for my work. At this point, Vancouver Sun is being very jerkish about it and has yet to give me transcription credit and compensate me for the work. I guess they they think that because they the big guys can take from the little guys without any consequences. To that end, I am willing to go all the way and teach them otherwise.

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oboewan | 3 years, 2 months ago
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According to the Mahalo ToS:

# You own your Content. We claim no intellectual property rights over the Content you provide to the Services through your Mahalo Account. Your profile and materials uploaded remain yours.
# You give Mahalo permission to use your Content. By submitting any Content to the Site, you agree to grant Mahalo and its users permission to access and use your Content. As such, you hereby grant to Mahalo a non-exclusive, worldwide, assignable, sublicensable, royalty-free license to publish, use, reproduce, distribute, transmit, adapt, modify, create derivative of, provide user access to, publicly perform and publicly display, in every manner and medium now or hereafter known, any and all Content (in whole or in part) solely for the purpose for which such Content was submitted. This license shall be in effect for so long as such Content remains on the Site, and will terminate at the time you or Mahalo removes such Content from the Site. Mahalo shall have no obligation to use or take any action with respect to any Content.
# You can notify Mahalo of possible copyright infringement. Mahalo undertakes to obey all relevant copyright laws. We will review all claims of copyright infringement received and remove content deemed to have been posted or distributed in violation of any such laws. To make a claim, please provide us with the following:

1. A physical or an electronic signature of the person authorized to act on behalf of the owner of the copyright or other intellectual property interest that is allegedly infringed;
2. A description of the copyrighted work or other intellectual property that you claim has been infringed;
3. A description of where the material that you claim is infringing is located on the Site reasonably sufficient to permit Mahalo to locate the material;
4. Your contact information, including your address, telephone number, and email;
5. A statement by you that you have a good faith belief that use of the material in the manner complained of is not authorized by the copyright owner, its agent, or the law, and;
6. A statement by you that the above information in your notice is accurate and that you, made under penalty of perjury, are the copyright or intellectual property owner or authorized to act on the copyright or intellectual property owner's behalf.
7. Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) notifications can be sent to copyright at mahalo dot com or Mahalo.com, Inc., 902 Colorado Avenue, Santa Monica, CA 90401.

Therefore, you're in the right.

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darcy logan | 3 years, 2 months ago Report

@drivel He copied the TOS, which was written to address people who were challenging copyright infringement done by Mahalo.

I contacted Jason as well as executives over at CanWest (owners of the Vancouver Sun) and they are in the process of "investigating."

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drivel | 3 years, 2 months ago Report

Sending a DMCA notice to Mahalo will not work. The infringement did not occur on Mahalo it occurred elsewhere. Mahalo has no control over what happens to your content elsewhere.

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drivel | 3 years, 2 months ago
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You own the copyright. For any website in the United States you can send a DMCA notice telling them to take down the content (including the ones giving credit to the Vancouver Sun).

A DMCA notice will not work for the Vancouver Sun since it is in Canada.

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smokenherb | 3 years, 2 months ago
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Where did you find the answer that you posted?

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nushka | 3 years, 2 months ago
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I'm sorry about this. With all the effort you put in your answers, this must be very upseting. The only possitive aspect is that it has created a concern.
I don't think there would be a better answer regarding that particular question so I propose it gets picked as soon as possible.
Maybe next time we should post a link to another website where we can decide wether we retain the copyright (or even donate them) or we use any other of the available licences.
I'm up for a creative commons licence and it would be useful if it was a default feature of Mahalo answers.
Too many thoughts comming to my head right now, I'll comment later.

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nushka | 3 years, 2 months ago Report

Ok, how is this unhelpful?

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