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Which term of the series 8 - 4 + 2 - ... is equal to 1/128?

I know that it's a geometric series with a=8, r= -1/2 and Tn=1/128, but when I try and solve the equation below with logs, the question won't work out.

1/128 = 8 x (-1/2)^(n-1)

1/1024 = (-1/2)^(n-1)

log(1/1024) = log (-1/2)^(n-1)

log(1/1024) = (n-1) log (-1/2)

n-1 = log(1/1024) / log (-1/2)

and then my calculator gives me an error. Help?
It's a very simple question and I'm usually good at maths but this has stumped me, what am I doing wrong?

By the way, we haven't done the Logs topic yet so I don't know any of the rules. Our teacher just showed us how to do this to solve geometric series, which is our current topic.
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mielu_istetz | 2 years, 3 months ago
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The problem is that you cannot take logarithm of negative numbers
The logarithm applies only to positive numbers

Look closely at this
1/1024=(-1/2)^(n-1)

The left hand is positive, so the right hand should be also positive
Now, if n-1 is odd, then (-1/2)^(n-1) would be negative
if n-1 is even, then (-1/2)^(n-1) would be positive
Therefore n-1 should be even.
In this case, the negative sign in the bracket disappears because
(-1/2)^(n-1)=(1/2)^(n-1) when n-1 is even

So now you have
1/1024=(1/2)^(n-1)
Can you continue from here now?
Also can you try to solve this without logarithms(so without calculator)? Hint: what power of 2 is 128 and 1024?

if you still have trouble with why the negative sign disappears when the power is even, think about
(-10)^2=10^2=100
but (-10)^3=-1000 differs than 10^3=1000

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soragon | 2 years, 3 months ago Report

I see. Thanks. I did the question using the powers of 2, which was easy.
The question works out when I use positive 1/2, and I get the right answer.. I'm just wondering, is that a law of logarithms?

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necessaryinfo | 2 years, 3 months ago Report

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mielu_istetz | 2 years, 3 months ago Report

Thank you-I appreciate it

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mielu_istetz | 2 years, 3 months ago Report

Yes, the logarithm is defined only for positive numbers
Look at this image: the logarithm (in base e) graph is below the green line and it is evaluated only at positive numbers x.
The x-axis is as usual the horizontal line

http://www.themathpage.com/aPreCalc/Pre_IMG/inv.png

we can say that the domain of the logarithmic function
log_b(x) is (0,∞)

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13rand0n | 2 years, 3 months ago
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Here is the algebraic method. Note that your initial setup should utilize N, not N - 1 as an exponent because any number raised to the 0 power is 1. 8 X 1 = 8 which is the zeroth term:

ALL EXPONENTS ARE SHOWN IN BLUE. * DENOTES MULTIPLY.

1 / 128 = 8 * ( -1 / 2 ) ^ N

2 ^ -7 = 2 ^ 3 * ( 2 ^ -1 ) ^ N

2 ^ 7 = 2 ^ 3 * ( 2 ^ -N )

2 ^ 7 = 2 ^ 3 - N

-7 = 3 - N

N = 3 + 7

N = 10

Conclusion: The 10th term in the geometric series is 1 / 128.

Check: 1 / 128 = 8 * ( -1 / 2 ) ^ 10 = 1 / 128

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