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What is the best way to stream live and record the video for later editing? Ustream.tv? Justin.tv?

I recently asked about how to edit .flv video. This is because I am using Ustream.tv's live streaming service at my site http://askadria.com

Ustream.tv promotes the use of Adobe Flash Media Encoder (FME) for "higher quality" streaming but they leave out that if you want to record the show for later editing, Adobe FME will produce a .flv file which a finished format vs an editing format like Photoshop .psd files vs .jpg's.

My current setup
Comcast Internet 3mb down / 1mb up
Logitech 9000 Pro webcam
Single processor 2.6 ghz
2GB ram
32mb NVIDIA FX 5200

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jeanne13 | 2 years, 3 months ago
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Streaming Video Recorder is a powerful video stream recorder tool to help you record streaming video and record streaming movies to your local disk, and save as video files in any popular format.
It is the best way to record the video for later editing from Ustream.tv or Justin.tv.

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interzone | 3 years, 3 months ago
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I think the screen capturing would be the best solution for you. It allows you to record streaming video from web cam to hard disk, and save it in a variety of formats.

I've done more video capturing than I care to remember, converting analog VHS tapes to digital. In my experience, AVI is a good format if you want to be able to edit these captures later. So, go for any of the programs listed in the referred page, as long as it records and saves the captured video and audio in AVI format.
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adriarichards | 3 years, 3 months ago Report

interzone,

Interesting idea. I can try this on Tuesday. I'm going to order a new video card this week too.

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interzone | 3 years, 3 months ago Report

I hope it will work for you!

It is a somewhat roundabout way, but the chances are slim that you'll find a build-in solution that allows you to capture and (re)produce video material of reasonable technical quality. The reason for this is, in my opinion, that services like Ustream.tv, Justin.tv and, indeed, YouTube, are afraid of third party copyright violation claims. In order to avoid responsibility, they will typically limit what one can do with software they provide to their users.

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seshankrishnan | 3 years, 3 months ago
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U - STREAM -does one thing and does it really well. If you are looking for a solution to broadcast live from your camera, by way of your computer, UStream makes it very easy to get started. Providing you with an embeddable video player and a TV-guide style listing of forthcoming events, UStream allows you to create truly live videos that can be inserted into any website or blog. Once your live show has finished, your videos are archived and can be watched back at any time.

Suited to: Situations where broadcasting live is of peak importance, from up-to-the-minute (on-location) news reports, to reality-TV-style lifecasting in the style of Justin.TV

Not suitable for: Situations where you want to edit your live feed on the fly, or insert other media into your stream, such as a musical soundtrack, or pre-recorded video clips

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avinash009 | 3 years, 3 months ago
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upstream s the best way to stream live and record the video

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darenet | 3 years, 3 months ago
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Adria, I was into video editing a while ago but not anymore. So I hope some of the advice below can help you.

As far as I understand, you're looking for the best video format in order to edit your videos.

UStream and Justin.tv use the FLV format when displaying videos because FLV is currently the most ideal format for video on the Internet...YouTube, Metacafe, they all use it.

Because FLV is not supported by many video editors, the best thing to do is to convert it.

Here's UStream instructions for converting FLV videos:

"How to Convert Recorded Video Files to Different File Types and How to Download Them

You can convert your Ustream Recorded video files to .wmv, .mov, or .mp4. To do so, go your "My Videos" page and click on "Video format conversions". After selecting your format, it will take a few minutes to convert the file. The format name will turn blue next to the "Download" option once the video is converted. You will then be able to download them by clicking on the format type in blue."

Unfortunately, I haven't found such instructions on Justin.tv except the obvious ones (use a screen capture software) which is not really a good solution.

So the answer to your question is: UStream. I've seen many 'gurus' in the internet marketing industry that use it too and it is probably because of the reason above. Plus, they use Adobe technology almost 99% of the time.

Now, about the quality of the videos, I see that you discovered FME. Currently, as far as I know, this is the biggest enhancement in quality you can make.

Also, consider what program you'll use for editing. Your graphic card seems very weak. I recommend you get Nvidia higher generation card, especially if using After Effects for editing.

So, in summary:

- Use UStream (currently they have more options for your needs.) + as far as I can see, they have a huge cooperation with Adobe...and you know what Adobe means for video and video quality.

Hope this helped.
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Adobe official website
UStream and Justin.tv
Some 3rd party sites

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adriarichards | 3 years, 3 months ago Report

darenet,

I have not been using the built-in recording option at Ustream since December. It would never finish converting or uploading to YouTube. So instead, I enable Adobe Flash Media Encoder (FME) to shoot out the stream to Ustream.tv and also send it to a file.

Monday, I will try doing the built in recording.

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ishaqzafar | 3 years, 3 months ago
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Well,Its pretty simple actually ....
Just download a downloading software called "orbit downloader" from www.downloads.com
Now start it after installation and right click (while it is in you task bar) and click on "Grab ++"
It will open another wind,minimize it and go to your video and just refresh the page ..... That playing video will appear on Grab++ and you can download it from there for further use.

Moreover,you can convert it to any format you want by "total converter"

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adriarichards | 3 years, 3 months ago Report

ishaqzafar,

This isn't helpful. The stream I want to record is my own. The problem is that .flv is a compressed format and there seem to be very few editors out there for it.

Second, converting .flv to something like AVI reduces the image quality

I am looking for a way to produce a quality stream AND be able to edit the recorded stream offline at a later time in a better quality format.

My current limitation is that I use Adobe Flash Media Encoder to push a higher quality feed to Ustream.tv BUT Adobe FME will only record in .flv which leaves me with a compressed format and very little choice on what I can edit it with. The one I have been trying is Moyea FLV Editor Pro (which only allows me to "trim" sections)

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