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Was Obama's gift to British P.M. Gordon Brown a slap in the face to one of our best allies?

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albanian | 3 years, 2 months ago
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No it's not a snub. Remember these are not the same things as personal gifts. They are symbolic and wind up in the respective countries' museums (the Smithsonian here, I believe). Usually they try to present something cultural or historical about the giving country, or one of it's current products. If it fits the receiver so much the better. Here the Brits were bringing up historical connections between our countries with a particular twist concerning the anti-slave trade fight by the British Navy. The classic Hollywood movies are a cultural snapshot of the US and one of our main current exports. If anything was a gaff, it was Bush giving Brown a bomber jacket during his last visit to the states.

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thelastscionspeaks | 3 years, 2 months ago
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The Prime Minister seems to follow film. He follows the oscars and was quoted as saying. “Last night was a great night for Britain,” Showing that he may have an interest in cinema. So, the insult might not be as insulting as one would think.

As a matter of comparison the the Prime Minister gave Mr Obama an ornamental pen holder made from the timbers of the Victorian anti-slave ship HMS Gannet.

So was Obama insulted by receiving a part of a ship? Tit for tat. It's making good news and increasing the revenue of the papers and market shares for media outlets. I don't think there is anything that is going to cause a rift in U.S. relations. (I have my own reasons apart from this to think that.) I hope you found this useful.

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nushka | 3 years, 2 months ago Report

It reminds me of the end scene in Cinema Paradiso: the old man's gift to Salvatore.

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cmealerjr | 3 years, 2 months ago Report

The first article you link to states that Brown is not a film buff.

It seems, and the press has noticed that the gifts Brown has given, have always been well picked, whereas the gifts from Obama, and admittedly the jacket from Bush, could have been picked up at a local mall or the White House gift shop.

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philipy | 3 years, 2 months ago
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I'm a big Obama fan, but this is kinda worrying.

First, though, I doubt Presidents have the time to go picking out presents for their visitors personally. I would imagine there might be White House staffers or people in the State Department that get paid to think these things through, with maybe the President just giving an okay.

The fact that those people came up with such an inept idea isn't very encouraging about the state of US diplomacy though.

However, it seems the poor man got a rotten gift (a bomber jacket) from President Bush also, so at least it's not a new development.

And I'm sure the US/UK relationship is strong enough not to be at all affected.

I wonder if maybe the game plan was to have a generic gift that could be given to all visitors? That maybe wouldn't be such a bad idea. If the gift was a universally appropriate one.

I can only hope they don't repeat this kind of thing with countries that are more touchy.

Even as it is, apparently the "British press are appalled". (Admittedly, there are sections of the press that love any opportunity to be appalled!)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/filmblog/2009/mar/06/obama-dvd-brown

On the plus side, it seems Obama placed a special call to Brown's plane to thank him for the British gifts. So hopefully any slighltly peeved feelings were more than smoothed over by that call.

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vandal913 | 3 years, 2 months ago
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I'm sure there was a little more thought put into it than there seems to be on the surface. It's not like he took a trip to Wal-Mart and randomly picked out 25 of the '2 for $10' DVDs.

The fact that it was specially requested to be produced by the American Film Society gives me the indication that there was a lot of thought put into it, and probably has a little more depth to it than your average stack of DVDs. What that might be is purely speculation, but I don't think Barack Obama is so inept that he would give the BritishPrime Minister a gift that would be appropriate for a high school graduation gift.

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263236 | 3 years, 2 months ago
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Maybe Pres Obama got the DVD's for chistmas and didnt want them and just decided to regift them.

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