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M$1 April 17, 2009 05:22 AM

Do you justify the use of chemical weapons in Vietnam by US?

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April 17, 2009 06:12 AM
Obviously the US used chemicals that were harmful to humans but they did not have the knowledge that we do today about the effects on the chemicals to humans. They even conducted human chemical testing on their own personnel.

It was just a different era and the US was fighting an tough war against north Vietnam, they needed a way to deforest vegetation which the Vietcong thrived in and this was a potentially viable solution.
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April 17, 2009 08:27 AM
I just can not understand the concept of morality in war. People are dead, and it does not matter how they died. Women and children die. That's it. Bombs don't care.
War is not about justification. War is war. I think that laws involving war are made by politicians and people who feel guilty that they did not manage to prevent the war in the first place.
That is what the Geneva Convention was all about. Guilt.
How is deforestation worse than blowing the hell out of the forest with a fiery blast from TNT?

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April 17, 2009 10:11 AM
No, I don't.

How could it be justified? What's your point?

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April 17, 2009 11:15 AM
I am looking for your comments on the question i have asked. If the use of chemical weapons on vietnam was right or wrong?

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April 17, 2009 11:28 AM
Hindsight is 20-20. I'm sure at the time they thought it was justified, especially because they weren't as aware of the long term consequences.
When you think about Agent Orange and other herbicides their only purpose was to destroy the vegetation. I don't think they knew about its harmful long term effects on the environment and on humans. And when you think that its purpose was to destroy the thick forests that prevented them from fighting properly, it's a justified strategic move.

But it's so hard to make moral judgments about acts war. Short of outright crimes against humanity most acts of war seem and may even be justified under the circumstances. War isn't the time to be soft and cuddly, it's brutal. It has its limits under international law but I don't think in this case the chemical warfare crossed the line, especially because it's not "chemical warfare" per se. Its stated purpose was not to kill humans.

So, at the time it seemed justified, in hindsight maybe it wasn't.
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April 17, 2009 12:08 PM
What were you doing half way across the world in other people's land, preventing them "from fighting properly"? Fighting communism..? Chinese..? Spreading democracy?

Can you clarify your notion that "they weren't as aware of the long term consequences"? Any documentary sources to support that claim? Who is "they"?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50d3MCPjypM

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April 17, 2009 12:57 PM
I don't want to get into a political argument. In the politics of the time, it made sense for the government even if I don't necessarily agree with it.
They is obviously the army and the government. Even if consequences were known, they may have not been "aware" or ignored the repercussions.
I just think that arguing in hindsight with today's point of view is a logical fallacy.
Take slavery for example, of course it's immoral but it wasn't considered that way at the time. They thought it was justified.
I have to repeat myself. Hindsight is 20-20 and I've always thought that arguing in hindsight is pointless. The only thing we can take from this is that it shouldn't happen again because it was an utter failure.

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April 17, 2009 01:14 PM
That's exactly my point! Why trying to figure out how & what "they" were thinking, what "they" did or did not know, back then? That's indeed a futile and pointless exercise.

The question, if I understand it, is simply: what do YOU think about it, and not what "they" might have had been thinking, right?

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April 17, 2009 01:18 PM
You're right. Personally, I think it's an atrocity.

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