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"The Lovely Bones" told the story of a horrific crime without showing any graphic scenes. Was it was less powerful for making that choice?

I just watched "The Lovely Bones" last night, and have to say I thought it was one of the most beautiful movies I've ever seen. I loved everything about it, including the fact that it centered upon very disturbing subject matter but told its story in a more magical way (thematically and visually), and without showing graphic violence or decaying corpses.

"The Lovely Bones" was rated PG ... it's extremely rare these days that someone would tell a story like the one in this movie in a way that fetched such a soft rating. A Guardian UK article reveals the filmmaker wanted even LESS violence, but was criticized by audiences for this choice:

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Oscar-winning director Peter Jackson has revealed that he had to shoot new footage for The Lovely Bones after early test screening audiences complained that a death scene was not violent enough...

Jackson told Reuters that he had returned to the editing room to "basically add more violence and suffering". "audience wanted far more violence," he said. "They just weren't satisfied." Viewers were particularly exercised about a scene in which a man falls off a cliff. "We got a lot of people telling us that they were disappointed with this death scene, as they wanted to see character in agony and suffer a lot more," said Jackson. "We had to create a whole suffering death scene just to give people the satisfaction they needed." However, despite the extra violence, The Lovely Bones will still be released under the PG13 certificate in the US...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2009/nov/17/peter-jackson-lovely-bones
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I watched it with a friend who told me the book this film was based on was much more graphic re: the violent scenes. So the movie wasn't true to the book maybe, but I liked it for what it was.

If you saw this movie (and whether or not you also read the book), what is your opinion? Do you agree with Jackson's vision of the film, which took the focus away from showing graphic violence, sex, or gore, or do you think these aspects are necessary if you're going to tell a story about grisly crimes effectively?
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n4thanl | 2 years ago
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No. On the contrary, some of the most powerful mystery, thriller, and horror films ever created have taken the implied route with a great deal of success. One of my favorite examples is the Alfred Hitchcock Vertigo. As a master of suspense, mystery, and horror, Hitchcock created an atmosphere rich in fear and dread without showing any real violence on screen. Another historic example is the film What Ever Happened to Baby Jane this is truly a horror film, as the antagonist, the former child star Baby Jane Hudson, slowly grows more and more insane and desperate to relive her glory days of yore. Despite the fact that Ms. Hudson commits horrible atrocities, they are shown with surprisingly little blood and gore, and the depictions are conservative on screen. In my opinion, this actually works to increase the tension, as opposed to all-out gore like modern killer films.

I would also like to draw your attention to the fact that both the book and the film aren't really about the murder as much as they are about a family coping with a terrible tragedy. In this aspect, it doesn't matter how much of the murder is shown. The real mystery lies in the mysteries and philosophies of human nature, just as it should.

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n4thanl | 2 years ago Report

It occurs to me that this would be an excellent venue for self-promotion. I have a blog all about this sort of thing at
http://fictionalfilm.co.cc

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balinesecat | 2 years ago Report

thanks! and i'll definitely check out your blog...sounds interesting :-)

good point re: the previous films as examples when "less is more."

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mielu_istetz | 2 years ago
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I have seen the movie and say it was enough what it was shown.
The story is about a little girl being killed, not a thing that you want to see. I think the director presented well. They showed when the girl was lured by the killer into a room with dolls and the first moments when he stopped her to leave. She started to run through a field. Then the actual scene when she is killed was not shown, which is very good.
Movies don't need to be graphical; there are other ways to suggest what happened and induce emotions into the viewer.
Stanley Tucci was uncomfortable about his role-he wanted to film that scene as fast as possible but it took 2 days. Tucci thinks there is an inflation of movies about serial killers out there. Even at Oscars night, when he was nominated, he seemed displeased with the clip that they presented.
As I wrote in the Mahalo page http://www.mahalo.com/stanley-tucci-acceptance-speech ,
"The actor was reluctant first to accept the role because of its sensitive subject, but as he declared ""The Lovely Bones" is a beautiful story about the exploration of the loss"
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http://www.canada.com/entertainment/movie-guide/Tucci+lovely+role/2463731/story.html
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balinesecat | 2 years ago Report

agree...but i think the more common choice still would have been a more sensationalized view. sometimes the most grisly possible portrayals of dark subject matter are from an "eyes of a child" view. i really like that jackson made such a different and innovative choice for this film. can't wait to watch it again!

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mielu_istetz | 2 years ago Report

in the movie the girl presents her life; so we see it through the eyes of a child

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balinesecat | 2 years ago Report

i agree mielu... actually, i'd disagree with the initial screening audience about needing to show the killer suffer more. he could have just disappeared off that cliff in a way more akin with the vibe of the rest of the movie, and it would have been fine with me.

i think it was also interesting that the choice was made to not show images of decaying, dismembered bodies, etc. i loved how the movie revealed the previous victims in a way that showed them peaceful and undefiled, using a sequence just gave subtle clues as to the circumstances of each one's death. given the same available technology and big budget, many filmmakers would have made that part into something shocking and gruesome.

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halcyonglow | 2 years ago
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I loved the book and waited eagerly for this movie to come out. I was slightly dissapointed that they took out a few of the character developing scenes but when it came to the scenes of violence I was relieved they only hinted at what happened instead of keeping the graphic death scene from the book. The first time I saw this film I braced myself when the killer lures Suzie Salmon into what he says is a clubhouse built for the neighborhood kids. I was relieved when the scene ended without showing her rape and dismemberment. The violence was implied enough with the way he went after her when she tried to escape and the blood shown later on.
The scene in the book was traumatic and long. I felt like I suffered along Susie and it added to the beauty of the book overall. Imagining this scene as you read it is very different from actually having to see it portrayed on screen. I think it would have been far too shocking for most audiences and would have taken away from the beauty of the film. Many viewers might have even walked out of the theater. The point of both the book and the film wasn't to shock or scare the audience but to show the beauty and new beginings that can grow from loss.
In the end I think Jackson did an amazing job portraying what Susie suffered without actually showing it. In interviews with Stanley Tucci he said that he had a hard time with the scene in the clubhouse and would appologize to Saoirse Ronan, who plays Susie, and ask if she was ok reapetedly. The actor obviously agrees with Jackson that the scenes of violence were violent and creepy enough. When we see Stanley Tuccis character soaking in a bathtub a couple of scenes later, the floor scattered with his blood-and-mud-soaked clothes I think more than enough is implied. We're still shocked, we still suffer along with Susie, we still feel for her. But we don't have to loose the beauty of the film and of Susies own perfect afterlife under the images of violence.

Note: I did have a hard time watching this movie the first time because Stanley Tuccis character reminded me of this guy.
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sabrinacareer | 2 years ago
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in my opinion no, you really don't need all the greusome and graphic to have a good thriller told.

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