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M$1 July 27, 2009 12:50 PM

Is a Class B Internet IP range worth anything?

My company has a Class B IP range on the internet... we barely use it, so would we be able to sell it on, or do we have to give it back?
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July 27, 2009 03:38 PM
To my knowledge, you cannot trade IP address space. First of all, you dont own the addresses, but lease during your contract with your ISP.

Moreover Classful addressing is not used anymore, now all the ISPs use CIDR blocks (Classes Inter Domain Routing) and classless IP addressing.

If you are a subscriber, you are assigned with the IP addresses based on your subscription level and requirements as part of the service. If you cancel those services, you need to surrender the IP addresses. If you change your provider, you will get a new set of addresses.

If you obtained your addresses from the registry, you can take the addresses to a new provider if you change.

Transfer is possible during merger & aquisitions, but not trading. During M&A you need to provide proper documemtation to the ISP and should be approved for proper routing updates to take place before you can use those addresses.

And also with use of RFC 1918 (private IP addressing) and ongoing IPv6 implementation, we are not in IP address crunch anymore.

"The concept of legal "ownership" of IP addresses as property is explicitly denied by ARIN and RIPE policy documents and by the ARIN Registration Services Agreement." per Wiki.

There is also an RFC on Implications of Various Address Allocation Policies for Internet Routing available for further reading at

http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2008

here is the policy update from ARIN:

https://www.arin.net/policy/nrpm.html#eight

"Number resources are nontransferable and are not assignable to any other organization unless ARIN has expressly and in writing approved a request for transfer."

Additional info if you are in Europe.

http://www.ripe.net/info/faq/rs/general.html#4

"Can I buy IP addresses from the RIPE NCC?

In short: No. IP addresses are a shared public resource and are not for sale. Effective management of this resource is vital to maintain the ongoing health of the Internet. If you obtain IP addresses from the RIPE NCC, then you will have the right to continue using those addresses provided that you use them in accordance with the allocation and assignment policies set by the RIPE community and provided that your membership remains current (or, in the case of non-members, that you continue to pay the required maintenance fees).

More information can be found in the RIPE Document 'IPv4 Address Allocation and Assignment Policies in the RIPE NCC Service Region' located at:

http://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ipv4-policies.html

How much do IP addresses cost?

The RIPE NCC does not sell IP addresses. Use of IP addresses is subject to membership fees being paid and renewed. For more details see the current version of the RIPE document "RIPE NCC Billing Procedure and Fee Schedule".
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http://www.ripe.net/info/faq/rs/general.html#1

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July 27, 2009 08:02 PM
Some really good information in this answer.

You can loan / sub-lease IP's

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July 27, 2009 11:56 PM
To my knowledge, you cannot. Even if you loaned your IP to someone else, routing has to be reconfigured for both connections either on the same provider or two different providers which is even more complicated.

Domain names are commerically more valuable than IP addresses. As I said in my answer, with the use of private address space and NAT, public routable IP addresses dont have any commerical value.

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July 27, 2009 01:09 PM
There isn't much of a commercial market for class B IP's.

Well, unless you're doing something particularly shady (ie: spam) and regularly need new IP addresses that you can't justify with a reasonable explanation that is. I wouldn't even consider this as an option because really, who wants to support spammers.

Other than a "backdoor deal", you might be able to shop a Class B around to hosting companies, new schools, or other folks who might require a ton of IP addresses.

Toss it up here and see if you get any bites: http://www.webhostingtalk.com/

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