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Early Christians started trying to determine what writings to include within about 60 years after the death of the last apostle, and within about 100 years after that, the New Testament stood as it is today. It didn't take hundreds of years. Although a few individuals first made recommendations, it was really committees that made the decisions. At that point in time the papacy hadn't even been started; nor was the See of Rome even in existence.
There were several other writings that cropped up over the years, but the earliest church authorities rejected them on various grounds. One of the earliest attempts to determine what truly belonged and what did not was made by Polycarp, who was a personal student of John's, the last surviving disciple. Many early Christian leaders and thinkers around this time began collecting the surviving works of the earliest Christians, in order to pass things along as accurately as they could. Much of the church's time in the first couple of centuries was spent in refuting various error-filled tangents, and the first several councils spent a lot of time dealing with them.
Perhaps today for Catholics the Pope has precedence over Scripture, but not all Christians are Catholic. The Protestant version of the Bible does not include several books, most of which occur between the two Testaments. The Greek Orthodox church, likewise, has not recognized the supremacy of the pope since early in Christian history, and thus has not accepted many of the decisions of the councils.
Yet all three major branches of Christianity agree on the fundamentals, and all reject most of these "lost" gospels.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecumenical_council
http://www.aboundingjoy.com/Bible%20studies/Early%20Church%20Timeline.htm
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You can read about them here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nag_Hammadi_library
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I forget which Pope it was (in the middle ages I believe), created a Canon of Scripture made up of only his own books!
Supposedly, there are other gospels were written: Mary Magdalene and Judas are the two that come to mind.
http://www.gnosis.org/images/Bookstore/marygospel.jpg
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_of_Judas
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Has anyone ever heard of the gospels that were left out of the bible?
I read about some ancient fragments of gospels that have been found, but they are from gospels that aren't in the bible.
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There were several other writings that cropped up over the years, but the earliest church authorities rejected them on various grounds. One of the earliest attempts to determine what truly belonged and what did not was made by Polycarp, who was a personal student of John's, the last surviving disciple. Many early Christian leaders and thinkers around this time began collecting the surviving works of the earliest Christians, in order to pass things along as accurately as they could. Much of the church's time in the first couple of centuries was spent in refuting various error-filled tangents, and the first several councils spent a lot of time dealing with them.
Perhaps today for Catholics the Pope has precedence over Scripture, but not all Christians are Catholic. The Protestant version of the Bible does not include several books, most of which occur between the two Testaments. The Greek Orthodox church, likewise, has not recognized the supremacy of the pope since early in Christian history, and thus has not accepted many of the decisions of the councils.
Yet all three major branches of Christianity agree on the fundamentals, and all reject most of these "lost" gospels.
Source(s):
http://www.ntcanon.org/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecumenical_council
http://www.aboundingjoy.com/Bible%20studies/Early%20Church%20Timeline.htm
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June 07, 2009 02:16 PM
They're called the Nag Hammadi (or Gnostic Gospels). The most famous of which is the Gospel of Thomas. You can read about them here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nag_Hammadi_library
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June 07, 2009 02:48 PM
Yep, this is exactly right on the money. I ++ this post. You can read them here. You can also order a "complete bible" on Amazon and other bookstores, if you so choose, to get the complete story. It's very, very different from what you've read.
The Canon and what you read is determined by the Pope (or the church you are in). But ultimately, what you are reading today in any church, was determined by the Papacy at one point in time or another. It became the bible.
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The Canon and what you read is determined by the Pope (or the church you are in). But ultimately, what you are reading today in any church, was determined by the Papacy at one point in time or another. It became the bible.
June 07, 2009 02:30 PM
As I understand it, since the Bible is created from writings as defined in the Canon, and Canon is determined by the Pope. So, whatever the Pope decided was going to be in the Bible, was in the bible. I forget which Pope it was (in the middle ages I believe), created a Canon of Scripture made up of only his own books!
Supposedly, there are other gospels were written: Mary Magdalene and Judas are the two that come to mind.
http://www.gnosis.org/images/Bookstore/marygospel.jpg
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http://www.gnosis.org/library/marygosp.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_of_Judas
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If you look at the Bible as a History Book it's important to realize that there were other books written and found during the same perriod. But some were rejected. The question is why.
My "short answer" is some of the books written back then were Novels, not appropriate to include. Easy to exclude when compared to the other books. Just like Stephen King books are not included in police records or History books on Maine (except as a side note).
When studying history some people like to read popular authors of the time period (of any century) as well as ones written by scholars. But without the distinction the uninitiated might confuse the two and wonder at the contradictions.