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M$1 November 02, 2009 05:37 PM

How can it be fair to divide tax money and representation equally among residents who both pay taxes and do not pay taxes?

Every citizen pays taxes. Citizens in a state with a higher percentage of illegal immigrants get more representation per tax dollar contributed and more funding per tax dollar contributed. How can that possibly be fair to citizens in states with fewer illegal immigrants?
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November 02, 2009 06:28 PM
I suppose it is not really fair, but it would also not be fair to those of us in high-illegal-immigrant communities if the illegals put wear and tear on our roads, used our schools, etc., and we didn't have enough resources to cover them. I would think about it like this: yes, some of your taxes went to cover services used by illegal immigrants, but in return, you get a community with fewer illegal immigrants using your resources. For all to be fair, we'd need to either deport the illegals, or distribute them fairly. Since you're paying for them one way or another, does it really matter where they live?

As for representation in government, I don't think the census should consider illegals when coming up with numbers. They can't vote, and since they are not citizens, they are not entitled to representation in congress. You are correct that illegals being counted in our numbers gives any given voting citizen in our area a disproportionately greater say.
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November 02, 2009 06:30 PM
I suppose I am more concerned with representation than with funding, if I had to choose between the two.

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November 02, 2009 06:53 PM
Since illegal immigrants are in the US because the federal government has failed its duty to properly secure our borders, and to properly enforce federal immigration laws, it is not the fault of states and localities that those illegals are within their borders. It is the fault of the federal government, which all of us are collectively responsible for electing and funding. Thus, a valid case can be made that the states and localities being most impacted by this federal failure be given more funding to accommodate the excess resources needed as a result.

As for representation, a case can be made either way. (a) Since illegals don't vote, they should not be counted in the census in a way that affects allocation of House seats; or (b) Since illegals do put a burden on the states they live in, through no fault of those states, those states should be given added resources, including a greater voice in House debates, which include debates on immigration reform.

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