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I'll give you my take, since I have a lot of friends with cards and i have some personal experience on the topic.
A good friend of mine, who was already growing marijuana illegally, is now growing it legally in his home. You are allowed to grow up to 6(I believe) plants in your home, and sell them to people with prescription cards or sell them to dispensaries(Facilities that dispense medical marijuana to patients with cards.
He has a card, but I've still seen him break the law many times by selling the marijuana to non-card holders. He says he's just "giving" it to them, but I know he's not.
Many people I know, who were casual smokers before, are now legal casual smokers. Not because any of them had any legitimate claim or medical reason, just so they could do it legally.
In both cases, the change in law made their behavior legal, and therefore reduced the occurence of marijuana-related crime. As for the real sociological impact, it's anyone's guess. The people who don't want to get caught get a card with any bogus excuse they want, and the rest get arrested(eventually).
Whether it truly has reduced the amount of petty-drug related crimes in California is trivial. The true advantage is that we can stop clogging up the criminal system with marijuana users.
I don't personally use marijuana, but I have before and am for the legalization of the drug. Not just for medicinal purposes, but a sweeping legalization. I'm glad that California took this bold step to prevent casual users from prosecution.
In summation, I don't have any sources but I do believe that (in a legal sense) legalizing medicinal marijuana has drastically cut down on crime by making it legal for many users to use. That's an obvious reaction. If you legalized theft, then you'd cut down on illegal thievery. But the impact on public perception of the drug has been exceptional. People are becoming more comfortable with it, and seeing it in more places, potentially opening doors to a future where marijuana will be legal for all to use, with adequate legal restrictions(like alcohol). Hurrah.
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http://drugwarfacts.org/cms/
It seems to me that if they just regulated it at the federal level they could tax it, save money and lives on drug raids, and take nearly 1,000,000 people out of jail. Not to mention tobacco is legal and causes nearly 500,000 annual death's to marijuana's 0 (deaths due to consumption, not drug related crime, if tobacco were illegal i bet the crime related deaths would be similar for both drugs) I'm just thankful Rudy Giuliani didn't get very far in his presidential run, that would have been a disaster.
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More than a decade after the passage of the nation’s first state medical marijuana law, California’s Prop. 215, a considerable body of data shows that no state with a medical marijuana law has experienced an increase in youth marijuana use since its law’s enactment. All states have reported overall decreases — exceeding 50% in some age groups — strongly suggesting that enactment of state medical marijuana laws does not increase teen marijuana use.
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http://www.mpp.org/research/teen-use-report.html
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December 21, 2008 03:17 AM
What has the impact of medical marijuana been on California in terms of crime, the economy and violence?
There has been much discussion of the essential legalization of marijuana in California, but not the impact on society here. Are there any studies on what's happened in California?
(yes, I know it's not legal technically, but with medical marijuana license ads in every newspaper and magazine it seems anyone can get one and many have).
(yes, I know it's not legal technically, but with medical marijuana license ads in every newspaper and magazine it seems anyone can get one and many have).
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| December 21, 2008 09:03 AM |
A good friend of mine, who was already growing marijuana illegally, is now growing it legally in his home. You are allowed to grow up to 6(I believe) plants in your home, and sell them to people with prescription cards or sell them to dispensaries(Facilities that dispense medical marijuana to patients with cards.
He has a card, but I've still seen him break the law many times by selling the marijuana to non-card holders. He says he's just "giving" it to them, but I know he's not.
Many people I know, who were casual smokers before, are now legal casual smokers. Not because any of them had any legitimate claim or medical reason, just so they could do it legally.
In both cases, the change in law made their behavior legal, and therefore reduced the occurence of marijuana-related crime. As for the real sociological impact, it's anyone's guess. The people who don't want to get caught get a card with any bogus excuse they want, and the rest get arrested(eventually).
Whether it truly has reduced the amount of petty-drug related crimes in California is trivial. The true advantage is that we can stop clogging up the criminal system with marijuana users.
I don't personally use marijuana, but I have before and am for the legalization of the drug. Not just for medicinal purposes, but a sweeping legalization. I'm glad that California took this bold step to prevent casual users from prosecution.
In summation, I don't have any sources but I do believe that (in a legal sense) legalizing medicinal marijuana has drastically cut down on crime by making it legal for many users to use. That's an obvious reaction. If you legalized theft, then you'd cut down on illegal thievery. But the impact on public perception of the drug has been exceptional. People are becoming more comfortable with it, and seeing it in more places, potentially opening doors to a future where marijuana will be legal for all to use, with adequate legal restrictions(like alcohol). Hurrah.
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December 27, 2008 09:21 PM
Go weed go. One day all smokers will be free. (Even us cigarette smokers)
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December 21, 2008 04:12 AM
I didn't find any studies specific to California, but here is a good site for facts about the insane drug war America has been fighting http://drugwarfacts.org/cms/
It seems to me that if they just regulated it at the federal level they could tax it, save money and lives on drug raids, and take nearly 1,000,000 people out of jail. Not to mention tobacco is legal and causes nearly 500,000 annual death's to marijuana's 0 (deaths due to consumption, not drug related crime, if tobacco were illegal i bet the crime related deaths would be similar for both drugs) I'm just thankful Rudy Giuliani didn't get very far in his presidential run, that would have been a disaster.
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December 23, 2008 10:46 PM
Thats a great idea to tax it, allot less violent crime that way and more revenue for the state
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December 21, 2008 01:46 PM
The debate over medical marijuana laws has included extensive discussion of whether such laws "send the wrong message to young people," thus increasing teen marijuana use. This is the first report to analyze all available data to determine the trends in teen marijuana use in states that have passed medical marijuana laws. More than a decade after the passage of the nation’s first state medical marijuana law, California’s Prop. 215, a considerable body of data shows that no state with a medical marijuana law has experienced an increase in youth marijuana use since its law’s enactment. All states have reported overall decreases — exceeding 50% in some age groups — strongly suggesting that enactment of state medical marijuana laws does not increase teen marijuana use.
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http://www.mpp.org/research/teen-use-report.html
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December 24, 2008 12:07 AM
THE IMPACT OF MEDICAL MARIJUANA ON CALIFORNIA CITIZENS
California passed Proposition 215 in 1996. The proposition held that marijuana can be prescribed to alleviate pain, nausea and other systems of chronic or terminal illness.
THE IMPACT
A psychiatrist has recommended marijuana to 7,000 patients.
A medical marijuana card was given to a minor without the parents’ permission.
Unorthodox uses: Given to children with Attention Deficit Disorder (ADD). Parents of these children are recommended to grow marijuana in the home and bake it in brownies. It was given to adults for depression.
Those with marijuana cards buy marijuana and resell it.
The Oakland Cooperative Buyers Club alone has issued over 20,000 medical marijuana cards.6
Oakland is now called “Oaksterdam,” America’s Amsterdam. Street cafes sell marijuana for medicinal use. The city has had to reduce the number of clubs from 12 to 4. Oakland has seen an increase in crime.
Some counties are complaining about cars coming in from Oregon, Utah and around the state to buy marijuana.
In some areas merchants complain that there are lines around doctors’ offices and people are littering, urinating on the sidewalks, shoplifting and scaring the merchants and patrons.
In some counties, marijuana is being grown in residential back yards that are enclosed in barbed wire, with 24-our guards, and bright lights. One official states, “I don’t think the voters thought there were going to be marijuana farms.” In another county the residents are complaining of the odor, stating it is a pungent skunk-like odor. As pot harvesting nears its peak, the odor grows stronger.
Houses are being rented to use as sophisticated indoor grow operations. 20 have been seized in San Diego alone.
Several counties in California are suing the state because they believe California’s medical marijuana laws are preempted under the Supremacy Clause of the United States Constitution (Article VI) and because they conflict with a federal statute (the Controlled Substances Act) and an international treaty (the Single Convention on Narcotic Drugs). They assert they should not
be required to implement California’s medical marijuana laws
some more articles you may like--------
1. Santa Cruz Sentinel, “Doctors To Decide On Legal Pot Dosages,” by Brian Seals, May 23, 2004. As cited at www.santacruzsentinel.com.
2. Berkeley Daily Planet, “Oakland Hearing To Decide Fate Of Pot-Prescribing Doc,” By Fred Gardner, September 2, 2003. As cited at www.berkeleydaily.org.
3. Ukiah Daily Journal, “Medical Marijuana Given To Minors,” by Glenda Anderson, September 26, 2003. As cited at www.ukiahdailyjournal.com.
4. Los Angeles Times, “Unorthodox Uses For Medicinal Marijuana,” by Daniel Costello, February 23, 2004. As cited at www.latimes.com.
5. Sun National, Health and Science Section, “Marijuana ‘dujour’ In Oakland,” by Jean Marbella, November 28, 2003. As cited at www.sunspot.net.
6. Oakland Tribune, “Cannabis Clubs Put Council In Tight Spot,” by Laura Counts, October 30, 2003. As cited at www.oaklandtribune.com.
7. Oakland Tribune, “Medical Marijuana Merchant Defies Oakland Order To Close,” by Laura Counts, June 2, 2004. As cited at www.oaklandtribune.com.
8. Lake County Record-Bee, “Upper Lake In An Uproar,” by John Lindblom, May 28, 2004. As cited at www.record-bee.com.
9. Sacramento Bee, “Pot Plot In Foothills Sparks High Anxiety - Neighbors Fear the Impact Of Medical Marijuana On Crime, Property Values,” by Niesha Lofing, August 28, 2004. As cited at www.sacbee.com.
10. Press Democrat, “Pungent Pot Causing Stink In Mendocino County,” by Mike Geniella, September 14, 2004. As cited at www.nl.newsbank.com.
11. North County Times, “Indoor Marijuana Grows Raided;” by Joe Moreland, March 22, 2004. As cited at www.nctimes.com.
12.“County moves medical marijuana challenge to state court,” Gig Conaughton, Staff Writer
North County Times February 3, 2006
13. Oakland Tribune, “Petitions In For Pot Legalization Measure,” by Angela Hifi, June 22, 2004. As cited at www.oaklandtribune.com.; Contra Costa Times, “Marijuana Use Initiative Gathers 32,000 Signatures,” by Bruce Gerstman, July 3, 2004. As cited at www.contracostatimes.com.
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California passed Proposition 215 in 1996. The proposition held that marijuana can be prescribed to alleviate pain, nausea and other systems of chronic or terminal illness.
THE IMPACT
A psychiatrist has recommended marijuana to 7,000 patients.
A medical marijuana card was given to a minor without the parents’ permission.
Unorthodox uses: Given to children with Attention Deficit Disorder (ADD). Parents of these children are recommended to grow marijuana in the home and bake it in brownies. It was given to adults for depression.
Those with marijuana cards buy marijuana and resell it.
The Oakland Cooperative Buyers Club alone has issued over 20,000 medical marijuana cards.6
Oakland is now called “Oaksterdam,” America’s Amsterdam. Street cafes sell marijuana for medicinal use. The city has had to reduce the number of clubs from 12 to 4. Oakland has seen an increase in crime.
Some counties are complaining about cars coming in from Oregon, Utah and around the state to buy marijuana.
In some areas merchants complain that there are lines around doctors’ offices and people are littering, urinating on the sidewalks, shoplifting and scaring the merchants and patrons.
In some counties, marijuana is being grown in residential back yards that are enclosed in barbed wire, with 24-our guards, and bright lights. One official states, “I don’t think the voters thought there were going to be marijuana farms.” In another county the residents are complaining of the odor, stating it is a pungent skunk-like odor. As pot harvesting nears its peak, the odor grows stronger.
Houses are being rented to use as sophisticated indoor grow operations. 20 have been seized in San Diego alone.
Several counties in California are suing the state because they believe California’s medical marijuana laws are preempted under the Supremacy Clause of the United States Constitution (Article VI) and because they conflict with a federal statute (the Controlled Substances Act) and an international treaty (the Single Convention on Narcotic Drugs). They assert they should not
be required to implement California’s medical marijuana laws
some more articles you may like--------
1. Santa Cruz Sentinel, “Doctors To Decide On Legal Pot Dosages,” by Brian Seals, May 23, 2004. As cited at www.santacruzsentinel.com.
2. Berkeley Daily Planet, “Oakland Hearing To Decide Fate Of Pot-Prescribing Doc,” By Fred Gardner, September 2, 2003. As cited at www.berkeleydaily.org.
3. Ukiah Daily Journal, “Medical Marijuana Given To Minors,” by Glenda Anderson, September 26, 2003. As cited at www.ukiahdailyjournal.com.
4. Los Angeles Times, “Unorthodox Uses For Medicinal Marijuana,” by Daniel Costello, February 23, 2004. As cited at www.latimes.com.
5. Sun National, Health and Science Section, “Marijuana ‘dujour’ In Oakland,” by Jean Marbella, November 28, 2003. As cited at www.sunspot.net.
6. Oakland Tribune, “Cannabis Clubs Put Council In Tight Spot,” by Laura Counts, October 30, 2003. As cited at www.oaklandtribune.com.
7. Oakland Tribune, “Medical Marijuana Merchant Defies Oakland Order To Close,” by Laura Counts, June 2, 2004. As cited at www.oaklandtribune.com.
8. Lake County Record-Bee, “Upper Lake In An Uproar,” by John Lindblom, May 28, 2004. As cited at www.record-bee.com.
9. Sacramento Bee, “Pot Plot In Foothills Sparks High Anxiety - Neighbors Fear the Impact Of Medical Marijuana On Crime, Property Values,” by Niesha Lofing, August 28, 2004. As cited at www.sacbee.com.
10. Press Democrat, “Pungent Pot Causing Stink In Mendocino County,” by Mike Geniella, September 14, 2004. As cited at www.nl.newsbank.com.
11. North County Times, “Indoor Marijuana Grows Raided;” by Joe Moreland, March 22, 2004. As cited at www.nctimes.com.
12.“County moves medical marijuana challenge to state court,” Gig Conaughton, Staff Writer
North County Times February 3, 2006
13. Oakland Tribune, “Petitions In For Pot Legalization Measure,” by Angela Hifi, June 22, 2004. As cited at www.oaklandtribune.com.; Contra Costa Times, “Marijuana Use Initiative Gathers 32,000 Signatures,” by Bruce Gerstman, July 3, 2004. As cited at www.contracostatimes.com.
December 27, 2008 09:32 PM
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I have to comment on your statement below.
"Those with marijuana cards buy legally and then sell it." I seriously seriously doubt that is going on anywhere in California. It is not cheap to buy marijuana legally. The average cost is the same as street cost, between $45 and $65 per 1/8 oz. Some go for even more in dispensaries because they are specifically grown to be an excellent strain. That means the reseller would have to sell for an insane price that no one would pay to make any profit.
Don't know where you got that one, but it's absurd.
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"Those with marijuana cards buy legally and then sell it." I seriously seriously doubt that is going on anywhere in California. It is not cheap to buy marijuana legally. The average cost is the same as street cost, between $45 and $65 per 1/8 oz. Some go for even more in dispensaries because they are specifically grown to be an excellent strain. That means the reseller would have to sell for an insane price that no one would pay to make any profit.
Don't know where you got that one, but it's absurd.
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