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How does the structure of pyramid of the Sun, Moon, avenue of the dead, and temple of Quezlcoatl match the Great Pyramid of Giza?

What was the purpose of the Queens chamber, Grand Chamber, and King's chamber of Giza? How does that compare with Egyptian Giza Pyramids?
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November 11, 2009 03:17 AM
The book, Prophecies of Melchizedek in the Great Pyramid and the Seven Temples, available in Google Books, examines various mathematical similarities of the above monuments.

While the author credits a common theme therein to the mystical Biblical figure Melchizedek, his mathematical theories can be examined separately, and seem to have significance to a common thread connecting the monuments, which others have credited to an Atlantis based civilization.

There is some archeological proof that Egyptian mummies have had cocaine residue in their bodies, indicating a link to the Americas for this civilization. There is also a large stone in the American southwest which has been deciphered to be a copy of the Ten Commandments written in ancient Hebrew. A nearby Indian tribe has many features in their language identical to Hebrew. Obviously the Jews were connected to Egyptian history and possibly interacted with the building of monuments.

I juxtapose the above to show that the above quoted book might have some validity, and that all these little known histories might show a connection.

Another book, also available at Google Books, "Opening the Ark of the Covenant: the secret power of the ancients..." has some theories tying together megalithic monuments around the world.

Like the UFO subject, there is a growing following of alternative archeology that explores many unexplained riddles such as perfect metal spheres found deep in mines, human footprints in fossilized river mud mixed with dinosaur footprints, and other anomalies. I give some links below to expound on these complex theories.
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http://books.google.com/books?id=nv5WgxGK9QYC&printsec=frontcover#v=one...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pre-Columbian_Africa-Americas_contact_theories
http://books.google.com/books?id=fgcdBFNJEY4C&printsec=frontcover#v=one...
http://www.megalithic.co.uk/

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November 11, 2009 07:24 AM
Your referencing the Decalogue stone with Hebrew inscriptions of the 10 commandments. Very interesting.

The UFO theory is human fantasy.

I'm looking for the spiritual analysis of Pharaoh: God among man, travel back to the spirit world journey, resurrection, and return to the location of the Gods. Does the pattern match in Central American belief systems?

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November 11, 2009 04:05 PM
What was the civilization of Melchizedek?

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November 11, 2009 04:08 PM
Are you suggesting that Egypt received its pyramid building knowledge from the Americas? Get a Phd and write a book on the subject. There is a growing amount of evidence that suggest that America was the export of wealth, technology, and knowledge since the time of Adam.

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aui aui
 
November 11, 2009 10:12 PM
Just some quick comments: I think the Great Pyramid stands alone in the sense of its style and technology, even from other Egyptian monuments. I find it a little odd that you might accept other mystical beliefs and yet discount UFO's--at least have an open mind. If you don't follow stuff like the Disclosure Project and comments astronauts and others have made, then you miss out on current evidence. On the other hand there is interesting stuff with Egyptian religion, re the subjects you mention--I think there is some validity there, and it's the precursor or archetype of the Judeo-Christian religion. These are all huge subjects that can take pages to get into. I will add a few links to the stuff I mentioned above:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Lunas_Decalogue_Stone
http://www.ancient-hebrew.org/15_loslunas.html
http://www.ancient-hebrew.org/6_18.html
The last link has translation info mentioning Egypt

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November 11, 2009 10:23 PM
UFO evidences are largely Metaphysical and fall into the world of psychic fantasy. Fear feeds the frenzy of speculation and imagination.

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November 11, 2009 10:28 PM
How did the Egyptians build the chamber of the King? The usage of counter weights had to have been used.

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aui aui
 
November 11, 2009 10:47 PM
This can get deep... but why totally discount the idea that there might be some advanced civilization ahead of ours? There is no proof there isn't, except maybe a lack of observable radio waves. I suppose this is good for another thread at Mahalo, but have you ever looked at reports like the UFO's over missle silos, and nuclear rockets go offline, or the photographer filming a rocket launch at Vandenburg for the military, and sees a light circling the rocket, send out a beam, and the rocket explodes, and afterward the tapes are taken and he's debriefed by 'spook' types. There's dozens of stories like these.

I've seen them 2 times in my life, in the company of others, and they are like no logical phenomena, ball lightning, etc. Sure they could be advanced technology from this planet, but even in Egyptian times, there was a report ordered to be written by the Pharaoh, describing the sky filled with hundreds of craft as far as the eye could see, among other ancient sightings. To many witnesses this is more real than spiritual beliefs--to each their own...

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aui aui
 
November 12, 2009 04:01 AM
"One of the first written accounts of a UFO sighting - a fleet of flying saucers, perhaps - is the following excerpt from an Egyptian papyrus - part of the annals of Thutmose III, who reigned around 1504-1450 B.C.:

In the year 22, of the 3rd month of winter, sixth hour of the day... the scribes of the House of Life found it was a circle of fire that was coming in the sky.... It had no head, the breath of its mouth had a foul odor. Its body one rod long and one rod wide. It had no voice. Their hearts became confused through it; then they laid themselves on their bellies....They went to the Pharaoh... to report it. His Majesty ordered .... examination of all which is written in the papyrus rolls of the House of Life. His Majesty was meditating upon what happened. Now after some days had passed, these things became more numerous in the sky than ever. They shone more in the sky than the brightness of the sun, and extended to the limits of the four supports of the heavens.... Powerful was the position of the fire circles. The army of the Pharaoh looked on with him in their midst. It was after supper. Thereupon, these fire circles ascended higher in the sky towards the south... The Pharaoh caused incense to be brought to make peace on the hearth... And what happened was ordered by the Pharaoh to be written in the annals of the House of Life... so that it be remembered for ever."

http://www.theblackvault.com/wiki/index.php/UFO_Sightings_In_Ancient_Egypt,_Rome_and_the_Middle_Ages_(Reader's_Digest)

Now I've had reincarnation type experiences, possibly with Egyptian linkage, along with sightings as I have mentioned. The latter are much more real feeling than the former, which could have a variety of explanations...

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November 12, 2009 04:12 AM
I'd would like to escape the discussion of reincarnation or UFOs and concentrate on a more narrow discussion of pyramid history and symbolism.

I'm not discounting UFO possiblity, I just don't want to enter that arena of thought for personal reasons. The subject matter makes me feel uncomfortable because of the high degree of misdirection that is possible.

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aui aui
 
November 12, 2009 10:23 AM
Sorry--you're statement "I'm looking for the spiritual analysis of Pharaoh: God among man, travel back to the spirit world journey, resurrection, and return to the location of the Gods." kind of opened a lot of doors, and I'm trying to pull a lot of divergent theories and histories together and see what unifies them. When you look at Biblical or Egyptian spiritual stories, which share a lot of elements, there are things which have dualistic interpretations. They can be viewed as spiritual, magical, or voodoo type manifestations of power, or alternately looked at from a scientific, or science fiction type perspective. I find many elements in this shared history of the Egyptians and Jews, to cross over to both. If you browse the second book I mention re the Ark of the Covenant, I find it easier to think of it as a supercomputer/hologram projector/weapon, than a box that "God" is dwelling in that can be carried around and referenced at will. Its hard not to compare elements that cross both cultures--but history is always the propaganda of the culture writing it down. That the ark and the coffer in the King's Chamber share the same dimensions, and there is a written Egyptian history that records a Moses-like foreign priest, that stole the "Holy of Holies" from the same pyramid--is almost too much coincidence to bear lightly. If the Great Pyramid was constructed to hold this object--which apparently changed the destiny of both cultures--and impacts the world today with current world events, one has to ask is this solely the work of a supreme being operating in spiritual dimensions, or some long term experiment by an advanced civilization. In either case, the forces at work should respond to physics and natural laws.

Juxtapose two of your statements:

A. I'm looking for the spiritual analysis of Pharaoh: God among man, travel back to the spirit world journey, resurrection, and return to the location of the Gods.
B. The UFO theory is human fantasy.

How is it that A is somehow less of a human fantasy than the thought of advanced technology that seems like 'magic' to more primitive species? If you took a half dozen of our current technologies back 100 years, you would be considered some kind of magician, alien, or supernatural being.

Granted this is your thread and it should follow your path of inquiry. I try to deal with facts or stories as recorded by ancient writings, along with current theories expounded by various researchers. There are plenty of people trying to resurrect basic ideas of Egyptian cosmology/religion and speculate if they are reincarnated priests or Pharaohs. You can read ancient texts like the 'Book of the Dead' and have them explained by modern 'priests and priestesses' found in any New Age bookstore.

Either path you take, science or religion, can be looked at through modern takes on metaphysics. People get hypnotized, have past life regressions, and tell about their life in Atlantis or Egypt. To take your statement in A above, resurrection and the supernatural rest, covers huge ground. Would you also like the secret of existence while you are at it, for your M$.25? ;o)

You can walk out of a library with two huge stacks of books on all these subjects, study them for months and years, and maybe not be any closer to the truth. Another third dimension to this is, to focus on question A, is a lot of the core of the Egyptian spirituality is probably tied into their use of herbs and 'drugs' which might be better termed psychedelics. As mentioned in other references I've made--you can see the elite classes had access to most of the substances any respectable hippy would have tried. There are mystical and terrifying dimensions to some of the places one can reach through these means, and this invokes the realm of the shaman and the apprentice. Perhaps you are not ready to look into these shadowy areas of the human psyche?

There are so many genres you wish to open up: journeys out of the body, reincarnation, afterlife, psychic warfare, astral projection... etc. etc. then add numerology, Jungian psychological archetypes, sacred geometry, fractals in nature and human engineering, etc.

Time for a Taoism break...

For some reason I'm drawn to suggest reading about DMT research, guys like Wasson, Shulgin and McKenna http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/dmt/dmt.shtml
especially the latter, along with some basic archetypal stuff like Carl Jung and Joseph Campbell--these guys cut to the chase and tie a lot of these mystical pursuits into a rational (or irrational) whole. If it all gets to be too much, I like to relax with a little Lao Tsu and Taoism.

The trouble with your question is--it takes about 40-50 books on divergent subjects to explain it all, though the basics of Egyptian cosmology is an interesting study by itself--open to interpretation. The Campbell type take is one major route, then there is the pro-Africa power take that Egyptian culture was the mother of all Western thought and has been suppressed by rascist Europeans... Whew!

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November 12, 2009 03:14 PM
I'm working through a series of correlations rather than one single unifying theory. Perhaps, you could start a Mahalo page and list your "divergent theories and histories", to examine.

My approach is to create a series of threads of thought and see what complexity emerges. I'm working from premises that I'm comfortable with : resurrection, man search for happiness, God-Man anthropomorphism, death and spirit journey, priesthood, and eternal life. I'm keeping within the realms that are familiar and comfortable to me.

I'm trying to avoid mysticism, transformation, military, study of power, inter dimensional psychic warfare, paranormal, and UFO realms.

Time for Tai Chi practice.

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aui aui
 
November 12, 2009 09:00 PM
Hey--thanks for clarifying your focus, and I'm sorry if my last question on your profile was teasing. It was late in the morning and I just finished my piece above. I suppose I felt a little irritated, because I noticed in a few of your different questions, after people answer something that's obscure, you will elaborate the question with another that one could take the time to write a term paper or small book, and considering the point/money system here, probably deserves a new freestanding question of its own.

I'm still a little baffled by your focus, though most of the topics you just mentioned are fairly mainstream and there are dozens of good books on them. I guess the value of Mahalo and this kind of search is how people can point one to their own "off the wall" discoveries that often occur by chance after scouring odd websites or bookstores.

In any event I actually believe that some of the last few authors I mentioned can help in your direction if you haven't seen them, and much of what you are asking is in mainstream thought. Good luck with the quest!

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November 13, 2009 08:42 PM
Thutmose III was an arch enemy to Mose. Hatsheput was the step mother of Thutmose III. Hathepsut wanted Mose to assume the throne of Thutmose II. However, Thutmose III over powered both of them. Thutmose III was known as the conquer and lead 17 campaigns including invasion into territories of Gaza, Joppa, Syria, Palestine, Mittani, and Kadesh. Thutmose III claims to have communicated with the Holy of Holies and received revelation that he was the next Pharaoh. Thutmose III then proceeds to erase all monuments and records of Hatsheput. Thutmose III was probably lived to 60 years of age, died, and was buried in a cave. Thutmose III successor was Amenhotep.

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November 13, 2009 08:45 PM
How was Jehovah's power was superior to the power of the Egyptian God's? Should a less power obey a great power?

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November 13, 2009 08:46 PM
Mose uses the Genesis creation story to correct errors in the false beliefs introduced in the Egyptian creation story. Moses possessed knowledge of the Egyptian creation stories and he argued against the Egyptian false beliefs.

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November 11, 2009 04:09 AM
The structures of the pyramids of the sun,moon,Giza,avenue of the dead etc seems to be almost equal to one another in base perimeter.Quotes about the facts got after my web search are given below .They are got from diferent links.For further info do go through them.

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The Pyramid of the Sun and the Great Pyramid of Egypt are almost or very nearly equal to one another in base perimeter. The Pyramid of the Sun is "almost" half the height of the Great Pyramid. There is a slight difference. The Great Pyramid is 1.03 - times larger than the base of the Pyramid of the Sun. Conversely, the base of the Pyramid of the Sun is 97% of the Great Pyramid's base.
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For further info:
http://www.world-mysteries.com/mpl_2.htm

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After climbing 248 steps to the top of the pyramid, you can survey the temple-lined Avenue of the Dead, a roadway about two-and-a-half miles long that ends with the Pyramid of the Moon rising to the north. Finished before A.D. 300, it appears to be as tall as the Pyramid of the Sun. However, it is only 150 feet tall, but built on higher ground.

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For further ref.;

http://adventure.howstuffworks.com/pyramids-of-the-sun-and-moon-at-teotihuacan-landmark.htm

And for the reasons and details of the chambers do go through the link given below that explains clearly.
http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/greatpyramid3.htm
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http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/greatpyramid3.htm
http://adventure.howstuffworks.com/pyramids-of-the-sun-and-moon-at-teotihua...

http://www.world-mysteries.com/mpl_2.htm


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November 11, 2009 07:24 AM
How do the purposes of the Giza pyramids compare with the pyramids of Mexico?

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November 11, 2009 10:26 AM
Both the pyramid of Giza and that of the Pyramids of Mexico seems to have built for giving an inner explanation of the mathematical code and astronomical knowledge.For further interesting info:do go through the links:
http://www.nativeweb.org/pages/pyramids/chichenitza.html
http://www.plim.org/greatpyramid.html
Hope these to some help understand the purpose.

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November 12, 2009 04:37 AM
What is the mathematical code your referencing?

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