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As my dad likes to say... "It's fundamental bullsh*t."
I've been a professional magician and have studied magic since I was 9. I've met David a number of times and have read personal interviews and opinions about him from numerous other magicians and magic-based magazines. David is a kind person and would never hurt anyone.
As the article says, famous people are often targets of these lawsuits. I have NO idea why the FBI is raiding his warehouse. You mean... the one where he stores his illusions and Houdini memorabilia? And "raid"? Copperfield isn't going anywhere... and the warehouse is MASSIVE! You mean they needed 12 agents to knock on the door and look around?
I would guess that he was performing in the Bahamas, she was invited to participate in a trick and she took things the wrong way (fantasized).
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It is not unheard of to have a celebrity accused of rape only to have the claims recanted later. Former NFL player, Michael Irvin, dealt with this and it caused him a lot of trouble. That said, it is for the court systems (as imperfect as they are) to help find the truth here.
Let's hope the a person would not willfully make this sort of claim just to receive monetary benefit.
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One, here in the US, despite other issues with the judicial system (which definitely has ISSUES), the presumption of innocence is vital. Innocent UNTIL proven guilty. This and reasonable doubt are terms most Americans are comfortable with, even though they both are completely different in theory versus being on a jury (ie in practice). So until he is PROVEN guilty then we have to afford him the legal status of innocent.
This does not mean that in the "court of public opinion" that he is innocent. It is like ethics, to be unethical, you do not have to break any rules or codes, you merely have to APPEAR unethical. It will be like that for David. He probably will win in court (people with money tend to get away with more IMHO) but may never recover in the public courts. Think of Michael Jackson, court says not guilty, public at large is far more divided. So in this regard, this will probably mar him in some manner with some people for a long time to come.
Second, there are all sorts of claims like this and they often tend to fall into a certain category where both parties are lying or not being completely truthful. Let me explain. David Copperfield may have had sex with this woman. It may have been consensual. That being said, both parties have agendas (David to stay rich and famous, and Seattle woman who knows) and biases that will mud up this issue and make it into something it was not, but something that makes the best possible scenario for them now. It is not black and white, rather shades of grey.
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August 20, 2009 05:47 PM
David Copperfield sued over rape claims, thoughts?
An unnamed Seattle woman has filed a lawsuit against illusionist David Copperfield over claims that he sexually assaulted her in 2007 in the Bahamas.
The FBI raided his Las Vegas warehouse months after the alleged rape, but no charges have been filed so far.
Do you think the claims are true or this woman is just looking for a quick pay check? With all the bogus claims these days it's hard to separate fact from fiction, but on initial glance, do you believe the woman?
The FBI raided his Las Vegas warehouse months after the alleged rape, but no charges have been filed so far.
Do you think the claims are true or this woman is just looking for a quick pay check? With all the bogus claims these days it's hard to separate fact from fiction, but on initial glance, do you believe the woman?
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| August 20, 2009 06:01 PM |
I've been a professional magician and have studied magic since I was 9. I've met David a number of times and have read personal interviews and opinions about him from numerous other magicians and magic-based magazines. David is a kind person and would never hurt anyone.
As the article says, famous people are often targets of these lawsuits. I have NO idea why the FBI is raiding his warehouse. You mean... the one where he stores his illusions and Houdini memorabilia? And "raid"? Copperfield isn't going anywhere... and the warehouse is MASSIVE! You mean they needed 12 agents to knock on the door and look around?
I would guess that he was performing in the Bahamas, she was invited to participate in a trick and she took things the wrong way (fantasized).
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August 20, 2009 06:06 PM
This is really a difficult thing to take sides on because if the woman was really sexually assaulted, she deserves to be compensated and the attacker deserves to have a judgment set against him in criminal court and if feasible civil court. However, if the claims are false, they can ruin a person's career -- this is one of the dangers of living such a public life. It is not unheard of to have a celebrity accused of rape only to have the claims recanted later. Former NFL player, Michael Irvin, dealt with this and it caused him a lot of trouble. That said, it is for the court systems (as imperfect as they are) to help find the truth here.
Let's hope the a person would not willfully make this sort of claim just to receive monetary benefit.
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http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1G1-19082480.html
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Voted as best: lilyloretta
August 20, 2009 06:57 PM
I have to say two things on this matter. One, here in the US, despite other issues with the judicial system (which definitely has ISSUES), the presumption of innocence is vital. Innocent UNTIL proven guilty. This and reasonable doubt are terms most Americans are comfortable with, even though they both are completely different in theory versus being on a jury (ie in practice). So until he is PROVEN guilty then we have to afford him the legal status of innocent.
This does not mean that in the "court of public opinion" that he is innocent. It is like ethics, to be unethical, you do not have to break any rules or codes, you merely have to APPEAR unethical. It will be like that for David. He probably will win in court (people with money tend to get away with more IMHO) but may never recover in the public courts. Think of Michael Jackson, court says not guilty, public at large is far more divided. So in this regard, this will probably mar him in some manner with some people for a long time to come.
Second, there are all sorts of claims like this and they often tend to fall into a certain category where both parties are lying or not being completely truthful. Let me explain. David Copperfield may have had sex with this woman. It may have been consensual. That being said, both parties have agendas (David to stay rich and famous, and Seattle woman who knows) and biases that will mud up this issue and make it into something it was not, but something that makes the best possible scenario for them now. It is not black and white, rather shades of grey.
thanks
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