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M$5 March 12, 2009 06:27 PM

Best antivirus, anti-trojan, antispyware software? Must have justification!!

I am going with a theme in my questions today. What is the best antivirus/antitrojan software on the market today? Why?

Specifically, I want something that will protect me from the Vundo trojan
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vundo

I bought Windows Live OneCare (because Windows techs have been so helpful last night and today). Did I make a good choice. I had been going with Norton's, but I've heard they offer no protection against Vundo.

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March 12, 2009 06:56 PM
According to CNET, Kapersky offers the most complete AV protection. I have always heard rather rave reviews about it...but I'm an Avast user myself. I've been burned by both Norton and McAfee in the past, so I migrated away from them some time ago. Keep in mind, however, that Kapersky is a "stand-alone" anti-virus program, which means that it doesn't have the same stuff norton does (firewall, registry cleaner, etc). As a result it uses far less disk space and doesn't bog your computer down. It recieved 8/10 user rating on CNET, which is the highest any of them have.

http://reviews.cnet.com/internet-security-and-firewall/kaspersky-anti-virus-7/4505-3667_7-32531226.html?tag=prod.2
"Still, Kaspersky Anti-Virus 7 provides the most complete antivirus production on the market today and deserves our Editors' Choice for best antivirus product for 2008. For a look inside, see our slide show. "

If Kapersky isn't to your liking, BitDefender is the runner up from the editor's picks:
http://reviews.cnet.com/search-results/bitdefender-antivirus-2008/4505-5_7-32595226.html?tag=mncol;txt
Asker's Rating:
• I had about given up on this question, but you went above and beyond! Great work!


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March 13, 2009 08:33 PM
@darcylogan... I am also interested in the answer to your question! I'd put a couple of M$ in the answer pot if that was possible. :)

This particular answer confuses me because it narrows the question down to anti-viirus programs only. Like you I want to keep all bad stuff off my PC, and I don't care how it is categorised.

I see that for what it's worth Norton has a higher rating from CNET and its users than Kaspersky does in Jan 2009.

http://reviews.cnet.com/4370-6520_7-453-104.html?tag=rb_content;contentNav

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March 14, 2009 12:47 AM
"@darcy logan" : Here's an updated list of reviews.
@philipy : Meh...don't worry about cash too much...lol...it's been a while since I've updated myself on AV anyhow.

Note: The CNET and ZDNet reviews are almost identical...suspiciously so.

http://reviews.cnet.com/internet-security-and-firewall/norton-antivirus-2009/4540-3667_7-33246574-4.html
http://review.zdnet.com/compare/internet-security-and-firewall/kaspersky-anti-virus-2009?productid=33193837
Here is another review:
http://www.pcantivirusreviews.com/reviews/vipre_antivirus.html

Kapersky - CNET: 3 1/2 stars, ZDNet: 7/10 - Major problem was with install not being overly intuitive and interface isn't clear to layperson. pcantivirusreviews.com marks them as having fastest response time to new internet threats and best database.
http://reviews.cnet.com/internet-security-and-firewall/kaspersky-anti-virus-2009/4505-3667_7-33193837.html?tag=contentBody;compare
http://review.zdnet.com/product/internet-security-and-firewall/kaspersky-anti-virus-2009/33193837

Symantec 2009 - CNET: 4 stars, ZDNet: 8/10 - They have shrunk the footprint down quite a bit making it run faster/smoother. No real mention on if detection algorithms/definitions were improved. pcantivirusreviews.com marks them as having a new feature called whitelisting, which let's you "allow" a file to be safe and not trigger alarms all the time.
http://reviews.cnet.com/internet-security-and-firewall/norton-antivirus-2009/4505-3667_7-33246574.html?tag=contentBody;compare

AVG 8 - CNET: 3 1/2 stars, ZDNet: 7/10 - Protects from rootkits, viruses and spyware well. Had slowest performance on scans/boottime.
http://reviews.cnet.com/internet-security-and-firewall/avg-antivirus-8/4505-3667_7-32887573.html?tag=contentBody;compare

Other AV:
VIPRE - 2009 Editor's pick for anti-virus. Newcomer with no track history. Pros are that it is extremely fast and had good protection:
"Independent tests show VIPRE Antivirus + Antispyware to be at the top of its game. While no antivirus software is 100% bullet-proof, VIPRE is the closest we've seen this year."

Here is some more info. I'm throwing this in mostly because it also compares the other companies to each other.
http://www.pcantivirusreviews.com/reviews/vipre_antivirus.html

Scan Speed:
http://www.pcantivirusreviews.com/images/vipre_scan_chart.jpg

CPU used during scan:
http://www.pcantivirusreviews.com/images/vipre_cpu_chart.jpg

%memory used during realtime protection:
http://www.pcantivirusreviews.com/images/vipre_memory_chart.jpg

http://www.pcantivirusreviews.com/images/vipre_speed_chart.jpg

With all that said, I don't think I would go with the newcomer just yet. Give it a year to get some actual user reviews under it's belt and bugs to become apparent. It sounds like norton has improved by leaps and bounds in it's newest release...but...meh...I'm jaded against them. I can attest to the slow speed of AVG scans...but it has always been solid (even the free version) the times I HAVE used it. No matter which way you go, you still want to remember safe internet practices and probably get a third party spyware remover(these catch most worms/trojans as well) and scan occasionally. I'm a fan of Malware Bytes, but Ad-Aware and Spybot Search & Destroy are also very good. All three are free, so you can try them and ditch if you don't like.

Let me know if you have any questions

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March 12, 2009 06:42 PM
i use webroot and it keeps my computer clean ...........here 's and list of the top ten anti-virus in 2009
Source(s):
http://anti-virus-software-review.toptenreviews.com/


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March 12, 2009 07:04 PM
An interesting question and a good one. I have to admit that, now that I am retired and no longer repair computers, I don't keep up with either virus or anti-virus developments.
One thing that I am certain of is that, in the past, the best anti-virus program has often changed from year to year. In the early DOS days we all swore by Nortons. Later, products from Trend Micro or McAfee seemed to run faster or to do a better job of detecting viruses. I guess that this was the result of enthusiastic programmers at each company trying to outdo one another and fighting the war on virus programmers at the same time.
Right now, I am running McAfee on my machines. The reason is not so much that McAfee has a better program, (they are all good, and it is probably more important to keep your Windows updated) as it is that McAfee does not slow down my computer as much as LiveOneCare and Nortons did. I had Nortons on my wifes computer and LiveOneCare on my desktop and laptop. My wife constantly complained about her computer running slow after I installed Nortons. LiveOneCare was similar in that respect.
I purchase my anti-virus software in January so at the end of the year I purchased McAfees and installed it. I wasn't crazy about doing this because in the past I have had problems with McAfee. I purchased it on the recommendation of other techs who were impressed by its performance.
I read the article from the link that you provided. I found it interesting that it specifically noted McAfee, so right now I would suggest using McAfee.
I don't know what it is about Microsoft that their programmers are not better that they are. You would think that this company has the resources to outdo everybody. Yet, year after year, they seem to put out programs that are subpar. As soon as LiveOneCare was released, I purchased it. It seemed so natural that Microsoft should have an anti-virus program. It was a major disappointment. I don't understand this. I hope that it is a better program now, but I haven't heard any of the tech people I read or listen to say otherwise.
Source(s):
Other techs that I respect.


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March 12, 2009 07:05 PM
I have had no experience with Vundo, but when Norton fails me I have successfully used two programs to save my machine:
Malwarebytes
Dr Web
Both of these offer a free version which is perfect for stopping a particular instance of a virus. Dr Web does not even require an installation, so if your computer is really messed up, you can still run it.
I keep two other programs besides Norton running constantly:
Windows Defender
Spybot
I don't know how much they help, but I was told that having multiple programs running is safer. I would probably never pay for another anti-virus software when there are so many free options out there, and so many helpful forums which will walk you through remediation.

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March 12, 2009 07:46 PM
I use Avira Antivir (http://www.free-av.com/) on both my home network and my laptop. The software is free and automatically updates daily.

According to the Avira website, their software should protect you from the Vundo virus, but the Avira forum shows that some people have been having problems getting rid of the Vundo Trojan (http://forum.avira.com/wbb/index.php?form=Search&searchID=328763&highlight=Vundo)

I have yet to have a problem with viruses on my computers while running the Avira software.

Another excellent free anti-virus tool is made by AVG (http://free.avg.com/).

Both AVG and Antivir make premium versions which protect against a variety of security concerns.

From what I have been reading, Its nearly impossible to delete the virus once it has been installed on your computer because it disables your registry editor. The best thing to do is re-install your operating system.

Hope that helped
Source(s):
http://www.free-av.com/
http://forum.avira.com/wbb/index.php?form=Search&searchID=328763&hi...
http://free.avg.com/
http://forums.techguy.org/malware-removal-hijackthis-logs/802475-vundo-viru...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vundo


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March 12, 2009 08:12 PM
From experience working on people's computers, I have come across a few with the Vundo virus on their machines. The best way for me to protect against/recover from this virus is to run Trend Micro Internet Security in combination with Malwarebytes (free version does not scan in real time). Results from clicking on the popups that say you are infected, convincing you to download their "spyware", can be removed with Malwarebytes effectively. Both of the software applications that I recommend will not slow your computer down to a crawl if your computer is operating with 512MB or greater memory.

I have put these two programs on a lot of computers, especially on computers where I know the people click on everything! None of them have called me with complaints of being infected since we put that software on.

One of the most common things I will say once I clean up a computer from this threat is that your web browser can not tell you that your infected, no matter how much it looks like the real thing.

I never, ever suggest anyone to buy Norton, it is a hog eating up system resources, slowing down your entire computer. For more advanced users I suggest ESET NOD32. NOD32 runs in the background utilizing little to no system resources. It is very quick!

Now when it comes to being infected with any virus, it is nearly impossible to catch every single registry key or file. In my opinion, and many people would probably agree, the only way to truly remove most of the viruses out there today is to reformat and start new. Unfortunately many people never want to take the time to reformat because they don't want to go through the hassle of backing up. This is a reason to set up an automated backup that runs every few days/weeks to your liking.
Source(s):
http://www.malwarebytes.org/
http://www.trendmicro.com

http://www.eset.com


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March 13, 2009 05:33 AM
NOD32 is the best antivirus I've ever used.

"It has been tested 54 times by Virus Bulletin with a success rate of 96%, the highest pass rate of the tested anti-virus products." -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ESET_NOD32_Antivirus#Reception
Source(s):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ESET_NOD32_Antivirus#Reception
http://www.eset.com/products/compare.php
http://www.virusbtn.com/vb100/archive/results?vendor=VE14


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March 13, 2009 12:14 PM
NOD32 and Kaspersky are tops, with AVG coming in a close second!

http://i43.tinypic.com/2w1v69t.jpg

"NOD32 is the world leader of the Virus Bulletin 100% Awards"
http://www.eset.com/company/awards.php

I have no quarrel with those who recommend using the on-line scanners, but I have never found the on-line scanners to be very useful.

Both KAV and NOD are excellent antivirus systems. NOD32 is perhaps not as user friendly as Kaspersky in terms of the interface but otherwise it has speed on its side. Unless you are really "hung-up" on using both get the one that runs well on your machine and that you have confidence in.

I tried both NOD 32 and KAV. NOD is a superb antivirus, but in the end I preferred KAV, as it is more robust, and generally 'catches' more trojans than 'finds' them!

You can see NOD's resource usage below:


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March 13, 2009 08:22 PM
The NoAdware, among the anti-spyware software programs reviewed, is considered more superior than the rest because of its outstanding features. First off, scanning of computer files through this system is easy and its security updates enable it to detect even the most recent spyware program versions. It is effective in removing the spyware program that is intentionally downloaded to test the reliability of the anti-spyware software being reviewed. The authors also visit some websites and downloaded certain programs that clearly contain spyware. The anti-spyware system scans these files and promptly alerts the authors about the threat of spyware protection. Moreover, this great product comes with a money-back guarantee within eight weeks from purchase to assuage the doubts of certain buyers.

Another reliable anti-spyware software is XoftSpySE. The free scan effectively detects spyware and is convincing in getting the full version to remove spyware. After just a few minutes of running it, your PC becomes spyware-free. This is as good as NoAdware when it comes to removing spyware. Its only weakness is that it is not compatible with the Windows Vista operating system thus, earning the second place in this review.

Third on the list is called AntiSpyware. Despite earning the third place, this anti-spyware system works really well. After all, it belongs to the top three in a study of ten different anti-spyware systems. All of these programs were subjected to the same tests and evaluation of each program was done using the same criteria. In particular, AntiSpyware is as effective as the other two previously mentioned anti-spyware systems. The only difference is that it is not as easy to use as the others. It also offers a money back guarantee and can work well with Window Vista operating system.

Try them for free:
http://www.noadware.net/
http://www.xoftspy-free-download.com/?tid=g-us-xoftspyse
Source(s):
http://www.review-best.com/spyware-virus-removal-software.htm


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