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Mount Sabalan, a stratovolcano located in the Meshkinshahr Ardabil province, with 4,821 meters it is the third highest mountain in Iran.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/63/Sab_dalj1.JPG/800px-Sab_dalj1.JPG
Setting aside all opinions on whether the Ark existed or not, the geographical location of the Ark was one of the first problems with Ed Davis account, the issue of which mountain was he taken to. It had been assumed that he saw the remains of the Ark on Turkey's Mount Ararat.
During the three-day mountain climb that Davis took with Abas-Abas and his seven sons he thought they have climbed up the northeast side of Mount Ararat. But based on Davis’ description of his trip and the many years of research and investigation on Ararat that had produced no Ark, many began to wonder if Ed might have seen the Ark on another mountain, perhaps it was on a mountain in nearby Iran.
Another researcher, Bob Cornuke, who produced the book: "The Lost Mountains of Noah", had investigated the matter concluding that it was very likely that Ed saw the Ark on Mount Sabalan located in northwest Iran.
Among the six primary reasons for Cornuke to put Noah's Ark on an Iranian mountain, were:
1. Ararat refers to a region of mountains, not just a single mountain.
2. Ararat is east of Shinar (Babylon).
3. Ararat is east of Lake Urmiah (also spelled Urmia) in Iran.
4. Other ancient writers put the Ark in Iran.
5. A British explorer in 1894, and an American soldier in 1943, confirms local Iranians believed the Ark landed on Takht-i-Suleiman (east of Lake Urmiah); the British explorer claimed to see a wooden shrine, and the American soldier claimed to see the Ark.
6. BASE Teams in 2005 and 2006 find possible evidence of the shrine and the Ark on Takht-i-Suleiman.
Other investigations suggest the possibility of other mountain, like Mount Damavand, northeast of Tehran as being the mountain Ed was taken to.
This is the Sketch of the Ed Davis "Ark Canyon" produced by Elfred Lee in 1986 under the direction and supervision of Ed Davis. There has been speculation over the years as whether or not the description of the "Ark Canyon" refers to Mount Ararat, Mount Sabalan or other.
http://www.arkresearchproject.org/images/Ark%20Map%20McIntosh.jpg
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http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.creationscience.com/onlin...
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.arkresearchproject.org/im...
http://www.biblearchaeology.org/post/2006/07/noahs-ark-in-iran.aspx
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabalan
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"The Ark story is scientifically implausible; there simply wouldn't be enough space on the boat to accommodate two of every living animal (including dinosaurs), along with the food and water necessary to keep them alive. Furthermore, constructing a vessel of that scale would take hundreds of workers months to complete. Still, Biblical literalists—those who believe that proof of the Bible's events remains to be found—have spent lives and fortunes trying to validate their beliefs."
http://www.livescience.com/strangenews/060905_noahs_ark.html
Here is National Geographics coverage of the BASE findings in Iran. Which prints BASE's evidence, and people speaking against it.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/07/060705-noahs-ark.html
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| October 29, 2009 07:12 PM |
Setting aside all opinions on whether the Ark existed or not, the geographical location of the Ark was one of the first problems with Ed Davis account, the issue of which mountain was he taken to. It had been assumed that he saw the remains of the Ark on Turkey's Mount Ararat.
During the three-day mountain climb that Davis took with Abas-Abas and his seven sons he thought they have climbed up the northeast side of Mount Ararat. But based on Davis’ description of his trip and the many years of research and investigation on Ararat that had produced no Ark, many began to wonder if Ed might have seen the Ark on another mountain, perhaps it was on a mountain in nearby Iran.
Another researcher, Bob Cornuke, who produced the book: "The Lost Mountains of Noah", had investigated the matter concluding that it was very likely that Ed saw the Ark on Mount Sabalan located in northwest Iran.
Among the six primary reasons for Cornuke to put Noah's Ark on an Iranian mountain, were:
1. Ararat refers to a region of mountains, not just a single mountain.
2. Ararat is east of Shinar (Babylon).
3. Ararat is east of Lake Urmiah (also spelled Urmia) in Iran.
4. Other ancient writers put the Ark in Iran.
5. A British explorer in 1894, and an American soldier in 1943, confirms local Iranians believed the Ark landed on Takht-i-Suleiman (east of Lake Urmiah); the British explorer claimed to see a wooden shrine, and the American soldier claimed to see the Ark.
6. BASE Teams in 2005 and 2006 find possible evidence of the shrine and the Ark on Takht-i-Suleiman.
Other investigations suggest the possibility of other mountain, like Mount Damavand, northeast of Tehran as being the mountain Ed was taken to.
This is the Sketch of the Ed Davis "Ark Canyon" produced by Elfred Lee in 1986 under the direction and supervision of Ed Davis. There has been speculation over the years as whether or not the description of the "Ark Canyon" refers to Mount Ararat, Mount Sabalan or other.
Source(s):
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.creationscience.com/onlin...
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.arkresearchproject.org/im...
http://www.biblearchaeology.org/post/2006/07/noahs-ark-in-iran.aspx
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabalan
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October 29, 2009 05:31 PM
No I don't belive it is. I believe that Noah's ark does not exist. "The Ark story is scientifically implausible; there simply wouldn't be enough space on the boat to accommodate two of every living animal (including dinosaurs), along with the food and water necessary to keep them alive. Furthermore, constructing a vessel of that scale would take hundreds of workers months to complete. Still, Biblical literalists—those who believe that proof of the Bible's events remains to be found—have spent lives and fortunes trying to validate their beliefs."
http://www.livescience.com/strangenews/060905_noahs_ark.html
Here is National Geographics coverage of the BASE findings in Iran. Which prints BASE's evidence, and people speaking against it.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/07/060705-noahs-ark.html
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October 30, 2009 05:07 PM
I don't mind that I did not get best answer, but unhelpful?
Is Noah's Ark located on Mount Sabalon in Iran? The answer was no, additionally I linked an article that debunked this find, other finds, and casts doubt on the Ark, all of which supports my answer.
What evidence exists to support the theory that Noah's Ark may be in Iran?
In fairness I did not paraphrase here, I just linked National Geographic's coverage of the BASE findings. Which has both supporting and challenging data.
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Is Noah's Ark located on Mount Sabalon in Iran? The answer was no, additionally I linked an article that debunked this find, other finds, and casts doubt on the Ark, all of which supports my answer.
What evidence exists to support the theory that Noah's Ark may be in Iran?
In fairness I did not paraphrase here, I just linked National Geographic's coverage of the BASE findings. Which has both supporting and challenging data.
October 31, 2009 03:04 PM
20/20 review of Amateur Archaeologist, Ron Wyatt's claim of find Noah's ark and the Turkish Governments National Park
1. June 7, 1987, the Turkish government announced a national park of the ark in Eastern Turkey.
2. Wyatt finds 8 iconic descriptions of the survivors of the flood
3. An earthquake drops the soil and exposes the ribs of the ship. Wyatt finds a high organic content consistent with wood
4. Wyat believes he has identified bulk heads and partions, a man-made structure, the length of Noah's ark.
5. Wyatt believes he has found the resting place of the Ark. The place is Doomsday mountain, in the valley of region of eight.
6. David Fassel, a marine biologist, molecular frequency generator used to locate under water treasure. The ribbons reveal a huge ship.
8. John Mountgarner confirms iron
9. Tom Fenner detected something below the rock, a man made structure
10. Wyatt find joints, iron plates and ribbons, by the thousands. Wyatt says the technology was very advanced.
11. A Turkish visitor centor was completed for viewers to see the ark
12. The Ark was 515 feet long
If you watch the video, you will see numerous scientific studies that confirm a man-made object.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Y5ORpMTebI
What is your interpretation per claim?
Was Wyatt's evidence conclusive and convincing?
Is Wyatts research methods conventional or is there concern about the accuracy of his techniques?
A computer replica using evidence Wyatt discovered should be used to recreate the boat and determine, if the boat design would work.
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1. June 7, 1987, the Turkish government announced a national park of the ark in Eastern Turkey.
2. Wyatt finds 8 iconic descriptions of the survivors of the flood
3. An earthquake drops the soil and exposes the ribs of the ship. Wyatt finds a high organic content consistent with wood
4. Wyat believes he has identified bulk heads and partions, a man-made structure, the length of Noah's ark.
5. Wyatt believes he has found the resting place of the Ark. The place is Doomsday mountain, in the valley of region of eight.
6. David Fassel, a marine biologist, molecular frequency generator used to locate under water treasure. The ribbons reveal a huge ship.
8. John Mountgarner confirms iron
9. Tom Fenner detected something below the rock, a man made structure
10. Wyatt find joints, iron plates and ribbons, by the thousands. Wyatt says the technology was very advanced.
11. A Turkish visitor centor was completed for viewers to see the ark
12. The Ark was 515 feet long
If you watch the video, you will see numerous scientific studies that confirm a man-made object.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Y5ORpMTebI
What is your interpretation per claim?
Was Wyatt's evidence conclusive and convincing?
Is Wyatts research methods conventional or is there concern about the accuracy of his techniques?
A computer replica using evidence Wyatt discovered should be used to recreate the boat and determine, if the boat design would work.
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Did Cornuke try once to find the Ark? Cornuke had a five day pass to find the Ark. In Cornuke's first attempt to locate the Ark, he was unable find the glacier and the remains of the boat. However, time was short and so Cornuke was forced to leave before exploring higher portions of the mountain.
Mount Sabalan may be survived by plane or helicopter, if the Iranian government would permit, such a search.
Could Satellite image reveal the resting place of the Ark? Or does cloud cover prevent a space picture of the Ark?
No quite, Cornuke´s theory only contradicts, in the geographical sense, Ed Davis account.
Despite its location in Iran, Mount Sabalan could be easily surveyed by plane (won´t see no trouble from the Iranian government) and the clean skies during summer season over the mountain must certainly contribute to any satellite imagery. But being a much visited mountain which by the way, have natural hot springs attracting lots of tourists and climbers year around, I guess the chances of finding the Ark there are very slim.
This is a crowded mountain which has been visited during decades, on top of that, the snowy areas are getting scarce every year thanks to the global warming. So I don´t think any visible traces of the Ark could be found on this mountain today.
Turkey or Iran
Have you heard the story about a large black board from the Ark shown to a few foreigners?
It is also interesting to note that few people contradict Davis account. Most believe he was misguided and took another mountain instead. The fact of the finding of the Ark itself is not much contested as one may believe in this case.
As a site per se, I believe there will be more chance to find the Ark in Mount Ararat, Turkey than Mount Sabalan in Iran.
In considering Ed Davis account, one may choose Iran Mountains as the best choice instead Turkey´s Mountains.