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Well, I've never watched the show, but this is clearly made up whole-cloth by the writers, because this isn't what gravitational lenses do.
What they are probably getting at is that time slows near large/heavy bodies with a lot of gravity. The projectile itself would NOT slow (all things being equal), but would, instead, continue to travel at 200 mph - it's just that an hour would take a lot longer (for someone outside the system)!
So, a 200 mph projectile would cover 5 miles in 90 seconds, normally, from our reference point. The show says that instead of 90 seconds, the projectile took 30 minutes: that's a time dilation factor of 20x for that 5 miles. If you had a black hole and the projectile shot across very close to its surface, you could, say, slow time 19x.
Of course, the mass of a black hole is infinite, so the answer to "How much mass?" is infinite! And, of course, you couldn't just shoot a projectile across the surface of a black hole (or any other mass) in the hopes of only taking advantage of the time dilation: the missile would get sucked down into it and all that.
So, sorry there is no answer to your question, but I hope the clarification that the writers probably mean that time slows, not the projectile, is interesting!
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How much mass is required making a gravitation lens distorting timespace slowing a projectile traveling 200 mph delaying 30 minutes
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How much gravity is required to create a gravitational lens slowing a 200 mph projectile, traveling five miles, by 30 minutes.
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How much gravity is required to create a gravitational lens slowing a 200 mph projectile, traveling five miles, by 30 minutes.
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| August 16, 2009 03:23 PM |
What they are probably getting at is that time slows near large/heavy bodies with a lot of gravity. The projectile itself would NOT slow (all things being equal), but would, instead, continue to travel at 200 mph - it's just that an hour would take a lot longer (for someone outside the system)!
So, a 200 mph projectile would cover 5 miles in 90 seconds, normally, from our reference point. The show says that instead of 90 seconds, the projectile took 30 minutes: that's a time dilation factor of 20x for that 5 miles. If you had a black hole and the projectile shot across very close to its surface, you could, say, slow time 19x.
Of course, the mass of a black hole is infinite, so the answer to "How much mass?" is infinite! And, of course, you couldn't just shoot a projectile across the surface of a black hole (or any other mass) in the hopes of only taking advantage of the time dilation: the missile would get sucked down into it and all that.
So, sorry there is no answer to your question, but I hope the clarification that the writers probably mean that time slows, not the projectile, is interesting!
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August 16, 2009 11:03 PM
Time slows inside of a black hole, assuming the physical matter can exist and velocity does move to zero.
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August 19, 2009 05:03 PM
Doh! I saw I wrote "the mass of a black hole is infinite" - this is not true. Infinitely dense? Yes! Infinite mass? No. The smallest stellar black hole is something like 3.8x the mass of the sun, so that might be some sort of limit. Assuming "evaporation" or other exotic processes or hypothetical black holes generated by other unknown means, I guess you could have a smaller one.
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