Warning About Refinancing Questions
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September 16, 2009 10:00 AM
Does it make sense to refinance my house?
My current rate is fixed at 6%, and my friend was just offered a rate of 4.75%. My credit is ridiculously better than his. I'm not in a position to pay a lot of closing costs. Let me know what other details are needed to properly answer this question. (Suze Orman is a member here, right?)
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| September 16, 2009 10:16 AM |
http://www.mlcalc.com/
Do it twice. Once using 6%, once using 4.5%.
Talk to your bank or lender. List ALL of the fees associated with refinancing.
If you're going to save money (and you likely will), do it. It's sort of a pain to spend the time refinancing for a couple of percent, but if you're getting close to the end of your term anyway... midas well.
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September 17, 2009 09:25 AM
Thanks...there are a lot of great answers here. It looks like I have some research to do.
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September 16, 2009 11:54 AM
It depends on how long you're going to stay in your existing house. If you're moving soon, you wouldn't be around long enough to reap the benefits. When you're calling around for rates, you may want to ask for a quote on a no points- no closing cost loan. These will generally be a bit higher than the regular rate, but you'll probably still save money and wont have to worry about a pay back period.
Be careful not to extend the term of the loan (unless you need to ). If you have 20 years left on your mortgage and refinance for 30 years, your monthly payments will go way down, but you'll pay more interest over the loan term - even with a lower rate.
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September 16, 2009 12:35 PM
I would definately use the calculator @robbrown supplied. 1. Use the calculator on the exact amount you owe and the at the new rate you are being offered. 1% at 30 years on 250k = 50k +/- 3k.
2. There is a big push by most banks going on right now to attract new customers with good credit. PNC offers this same rate but if you apply and recieve a checking account with them and have direct deposit they will wave all closing costs on new mortages. I know this is being used by quite a few banks right now.
3. Read all the fine print!!! Banks that are offering fixed rates at prime or prime +1,ie. 4 1/2 % is kind of trickey because the fixed rate is prime or prime +1, who knows what prime will be in 2020? The term fixed rate has diffrent meanings, ie; fixed at prime? Make sure there is a cap and it is really a fixed rate.
4. A good rule of thumb is gather all the information from the bank and then before you decide go to a trustworthy account and spend the 200 bucks or so and have them review it for you. They can fill in all the details you will need and the exact figures of your savings or loss. Sometimes a lower rate sounds good in the beginning but it dosen't work out that way later on.
A trustworthy account is worth his weight in gold on decisions like this, most people do not use one or even think about them when applying for a mortage.
I hope this helps.
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September 16, 2009 10:37 PM
Do you mean a "trustworthy accountant," a financial professional, rather than a "trustworthy account," a business relationship with a financial institution?
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Shin
September 16, 2009 10:59 PM
A 6% fixed rate is infinitely better than an ARM with an initial rate of 4.75%. You may need to talk to your friend to get more details about the terms of his loan, before salivating over "greener grass." How much was his down payment, compared to yours? What is the term of his loan, compared to yours? What is his APR, compared to yours? Per Bankrate.com, "the annual percentage rate (APR) of a mortgage is calculated by taking the average compound interest rate – including the interest, mortgage insurance and certain closing costs, with points paid at closing – over the term of the loan. The APR gives a true picture of the cost of financing. The APR on adjustable-rate mortgages is a projection of the true cost of the loan."
Have you already talked to your current lender about reducing your rate? Save yourself the hassle and costs of refinancing if you don't have to. Even a quarter or half point can make a huge difference over the term of the loan.
This whole discussion may be moot if your house is underwater (having a market value lower than the amount you owe). Before approaching another lender, you might want to consult a Realtor regarding the comparables in your area.
In any case, if you use the calculator on Bankrate.com, you may be able to quote those rates if they're lower than the lenders' rates as posted on their own websites (see the bottom of page at the link provided). Also, check the definitions tab to get more clarifications on certain terms.
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Shin
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http://www.bankrate.com/funnel/mortgages/mortgage-results.aspx?market=551&a...
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September 17, 2009 12:19 PM
I am Talking about a CPA. The one I used explained all the details in the contract to me, showed tax exemptions, and had a better knowledge of the actual contract and how if worked. He was also non biased, he did not work for the bank, he showed me some small changes like you stated a fixed is diffrent than an ARM. I learned a lot for a small price that saved me thousands and had no sales pressure. He was like a personal tuitor on mortages.
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September 17, 2009 02:17 AM
FTC’s Home Equity Loan – borrower beware ! has some advices on home equity scams. Some “dos” and “don’ts” Making Home Affordable website is useful.
The website also shows way to contact a HUD-approved housing counselor.
You can check Eligibility for “home affordable refinancing” and “home affordable modification”. Its resources for borrower page has news, info, calculators etc..
Hope for Homeowners plan has information on loan modification (renegotiates your mortgage with your lender).
Hope this helps.
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September 17, 2009 02:30 AM
Aaeeiioouu didn't indicate that his desire for a lower interest rate was due to an inability to pay his mortgage. A lender won't consider a loan modification unless the borrower is in financial straits, among other factors. A loan modification is different from a borrower, with good credit, requesting a slightly lower interest rate as an incentive to stay with the lender.
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September 17, 2009 06:16 AM
Hi shinju,
Thanks for your comment.
My answer isn't solely on loan modification. It includes refinancing, counselling, resources (for e.g. calculators), "dos" and "don't" to prevent home equity loan scams.
I think it's unfair to put my answer as "unhelpful" just because I mentioned loan modification.
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Thanks for your comment.
My answer isn't solely on loan modification. It includes refinancing, counselling, resources (for e.g. calculators), "dos" and "don't" to prevent home equity loan scams.
I think it's unfair to put my answer as "unhelpful" just because I mentioned loan modification.
September 17, 2009 01:22 PM
Hi, Wy:
I can certainly understand and appreciate your concern regarding my vote of "unhelpful." I gave this issue a fair amount of thought before taking action. I also want to say thank you for the way that you handled your concern.
While it's true that your answer addressed several concerns besides loan modification, it didn't directly address Aaeeiioouu's question, which pertained to the factors involved in applying for refinancing. My intention was to help you to gain more discernment about the accuracy of your answer as it pertains to the stated question.
Just three months ago, when I joined Mahalo, there were 6,000+ members. Now there are 21,000 and counting. That means that, in order to be counted among the credible, people will have to work that much harder to deliver accurate and well-articulated answers. Your percentage of best answers is taken into consideration when you reach brown-belt level. To simply answer questions for the two-point reward only dilutes your best-answer potential without offering anything of value either to the person asking the question or to the Mahalo community as a whole. That's not to say that I don't appreciate the time and the detail involved in your answer.
Moreover, there's been a greater push by Mahalo staff to exercise discernment when evaluating the accuracy and helpfulness of answers. You can expect this practice to become more exacting as time passes. I hope that you'll also follow suit in helping to promote Mahalo's quality, because your input is needed.
Wy, despite this issue, I'm already your fan. Expect me to be watching your growth as a valued Mahalo member. Also, when I vote any of your answers as "Best Answer," expect me to give my reasons why so that others can take my perspective into consideration.
In fairness to you, I'm willing to change my answer to "helpful" if Aaeeiioouu gives you a "helpful" vote. Let me know if this occurs.
Best wishes on your continued success.
Respectfully,
Shin
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I can certainly understand and appreciate your concern regarding my vote of "unhelpful." I gave this issue a fair amount of thought before taking action. I also want to say thank you for the way that you handled your concern.
While it's true that your answer addressed several concerns besides loan modification, it didn't directly address Aaeeiioouu's question, which pertained to the factors involved in applying for refinancing. My intention was to help you to gain more discernment about the accuracy of your answer as it pertains to the stated question.
Just three months ago, when I joined Mahalo, there were 6,000+ members. Now there are 21,000 and counting. That means that, in order to be counted among the credible, people will have to work that much harder to deliver accurate and well-articulated answers. Your percentage of best answers is taken into consideration when you reach brown-belt level. To simply answer questions for the two-point reward only dilutes your best-answer potential without offering anything of value either to the person asking the question or to the Mahalo community as a whole. That's not to say that I don't appreciate the time and the detail involved in your answer.
Moreover, there's been a greater push by Mahalo staff to exercise discernment when evaluating the accuracy and helpfulness of answers. You can expect this practice to become more exacting as time passes. I hope that you'll also follow suit in helping to promote Mahalo's quality, because your input is needed.
Wy, despite this issue, I'm already your fan. Expect me to be watching your growth as a valued Mahalo member. Also, when I vote any of your answers as "Best Answer," expect me to give my reasons why so that others can take my perspective into consideration.
In fairness to you, I'm willing to change my answer to "helpful" if Aaeeiioouu gives you a "helpful" vote. Let me know if this occurs.
Best wishes on your continued success.
Respectfully,
Shin
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