Poll: Is it a lie if you thought it was true when you said it?
No, a lie is intentional fib
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There's the literal way: was your statement untrue? In this case, the answer is yes. You said something what was not true. This is the definition of a lie, all context stripped away.
But then there's the way of looking at it that takes intent into consideration. In other words, this way defines a lie as an *intentional* untruth. That changes a lot. In that case, it wouldn't be a lie, of course, and it'd be slightly more morally defensible. The person you pseudo-lied to might not think so, of course, but they're entitled not to.
Even further down the spectrum is something that WAS indeed true when you said it, but later became untrue. That isn't a lie, unless you intentionally find out fail to tell the other party that it isn't true anymore. Then it goes back to being a lie.
Honesty's a lot more complicated than it seems!
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We lie when we're deliberately being dishonest and say untruthful things, even though we know it is false. People in the Middle age were not lying when they taught that the Earth revolve around the sun, or the eclipse was caused by a giant swallowing the sun and the moon. Certainly we know that they are wrong now.
That said, we should be careful when we assert some things as facts. It is better to use say that we believe something rather than quick to say that we know that is the truth.
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I agree with lidyax that if you are unaware something is untrue you're not lying however you saying something isn't a lie doesn't make it the truth. The unknowing only removes the wrong done by the person, not the wrong itself.
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" 1 : to make an untrue statement with intent to deceive
2 : to create a false or misleading impression"
In this definition, it is obvious that the root of a lie is deception. By stating information that you believe to be true, but in fact is not, is not done with intention, but rather lack of information or facts.
Being misinformed does not mean one is a liar, but that need to research their facts prior to giving that information.
Also those that offer their opinion in the form of a theory, are not liars. They are merely stating what they "believe" to be true.
If there is no ill intent behind the information, there is no reason to perceive it as a lie.
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My husband used to drive me nuts with this issue. Whenever he discovered a mistake in something he had said, he would say, "Oops! I lied!" He hasn't said that in a long time, so I guess I have convinced him it is not a lie if you believe it is true when you say it.
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Yes, the truth is the truth. For example, there are people who believe that the Holocaust didn't happen. They will state their denial and think it is true. However, it's a lie, the event did occur, and they are wrong.
For a less weighty response, you may say something and think it was true, but ultimately it is false. This isn't a lie, this is being mistaken, which is different. For this example, what matters is intention, and if you didn't intend to lie/mislead, then you've made a mistake when you made your statement.
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M$Lying with intent to deceive is definitely a lie.
Making a statement when you should have (recklessness) or could have (negligence) known that you were lying is lazy and almost as bad as lying on purpose. You owe it to people to tell them you aren't sure or don't really have the authority to be making the statement.
Making a statement you believe to be true, that later turns out to be false, is an accident.
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