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December 21, 2008 03:29 AM

What model camera/accessories would you recommend to a beginner? Preferably a Canon dslr.

I am looking to get a camera for the holidays. So far the Canon XSI and XS have seemed best. I have a bias towards Canon because a relative shoots Canon so I thought it couldn't hurt to follow suit. Can someone compare the differences between models and how they would affect me? Is it worth the extra money for the XSI? Are the kit lenses decent? Should I get a bundle? Extra lens? Carrying Case? Should I just be getting a Nikon instead? I'm open to any suggestions.
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December 21, 2008 08:46 AM
If you want a Canon, get a Rebel XS or XSi. The XSi comes with a better kit lens which has image stabilization, which will help your photos if you're shooting them handheld in bad light. Do look at other brands before you buy, though, as you might like something else more. The results between different brands of cameras are almost exactly the same, the biggest difference is what lenses and flashes are in the camera system, and how they work. Canon has the most lens options, and in some areas the best. Nikon has the second most lens options, and in some areas are the best. Beyond Canon and Nikon, Pentax and Olympus have a fair amount of lenses, and Sony only has a few. Nikon has the best flash system (though not with a D40, you need a D80 or better).

Next, you need some memory. For SD cards, you don't need to spend a lot, but get something that claims something like 133x, 150x speed. Most brands are just fine.

Before you blow huge wads of money on lenses, you need to consider what you want to do.

For shooting landscapes and such, the kit lens is a fine place to start. Here's a shot I took a few years back on the original Digital Rebel, with the kit lens on it:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/25/54517169_e433bed516.jpg

Any of the other brands of cameras would have no issues making an image like this, and all of the kit lenses would have made the shot just fine.

You really need to use the kit lens for a while to learn what you're going to need. You may find that you want a wider perspective, or a longer telephoto zoom. Canon and Nikon both have decent inexpensive telephoto zooms, Canon has the 55-250mm IS, and Nikon, the 55-200mm VR. Neither are amazing, but you will be the limiting factor, not the lens, unless you're trying to do bird or sports photography, really. For a wide lens, Canon's 10-22mm is extremely good, and a nice value at a bit under $700. Lenses get expensive very quickly. Here's a link to give you an idea of what the focal length ranges cover:
http://www.tamroneurope.com/flc.htm
Be sure to click the little camera next to "digital".
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• This was very helpful. Thank you for the time you put in and the excellent analysis and recommendation of lenses too.

Hopefully I'll be able to take such a great photo somewhere down the line.


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December 21, 2008 08:45 AM
So, you've got a camera, the kit lens, and a memory card. What now?

A tripod! Head on over to B&H, and get a Giotto, Manfrotto, or some other tripod, preferably with a ball head that says it'll hold 5lbs or more. Why so much weight? So the camera doesn't slip around and you waste more money on stuff that's not very good.

At least, get a tripod if you want to photograph landscapes.

If you want to take snaps of people indoors in natural light, you'll quickly find you will need a new lens - prime lenses have large apertures, let a lot of light in, so they can be used in very low light. The Sigma 30mm F1.4 will work wonders indoors, but it'll cost a few hundred bucks - so it goes back to needing to try and see what you can do with the kit lens before you waste money on lenses. That Sigma won't do you much good for landscapes, but it'd be great for indoor photos of people.

I could go on for a while. If you want private photo lessons, we can work a deal out. Lessons or books will help a LOT, as there's a fair amount of learning to do to get yourself started.

Here's a book that goes over the basics of photography:
http://www.amazon.com/Understanding-Exposure-Photographs-Digital-Updated/dp/0817463003/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1229849326&sr=8-2

I very strongly recommend it.

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December 21, 2008 03:30 AM
If you're a beginner, I'd say stick to whatever is relatively cheap. Check out slickdeals.net on a regular basis to see if there are any good deals out there. The models don't matter as long as you have good megapixel-age... preferably 6-7 Megapixels or so. To ensure the product is durable and reliable, stick to a well-known brand, such as Kodak, Canon, and Sony.

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December 21, 2008 03:32 AM
I really love the Nikon D40. It is a very good camera and well worth the price. Lenses can be purchased as a bundle when you buy the camera. Get a telephoto zoom for sure. I have the Nikon 55m-200m zoom and bought a 2X converter off ebay for a few bucks. It doubles the power of the lens.
After I bought my camera, I had to get my wife one just like it she liked it so well. Now I just learned that my son-in-law bought his wife (my daughter) one for Christmas! Won't Dinner be fun this year with all the flashes going off?! Anyway, a great camera, good value, and easy to learn to use. Go for it!

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December 21, 2008 03:42 AM
I'm in a similar position as you, as I want a DSLR and would prefer a Canon. If I had to lay down the money and buy today, I would go with the Canon Rebel XSi.

The way I see it, Canon and Nikon are THE brands for DSLRs. Gotta pick one or the other. Once you buy an expensive lens or two, you're sort of married to that brand. Might as well go Canon. And the XSI is made for people like us who are just starting to get serious about photography and want and SLR but aren't ready to break the bank about it.

Check it out on Amazon. It's going for $635 over there. That's not bad compared to $800 list: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0012YA85A?ie=UTF8&tag=wwwokaythings-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B0012YA85A

Also, have you seen this ad? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BQfCoqbubE

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December 21, 2008 04:28 AM
Nikon is much more intuitive to use and the lenses can always be used on any of the nikons so if you decide to upgrade you will not have to buy new lenses

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December 21, 2008 04:52 AM
I love Canon, and the best camera for a beginner would defintley be the Canon Digital Rebel XSi. I started out with that camera and still have it =). There is a pretty good package at costco right now. You get the Camera with 18-55 kit lens(IS) and a 55-200mm(IS) extra lens with all the canon gear you get with the camera body. All for about 849.99. I also think you get 50 free prints and memory card. Not to bad considering i spend 899.99 for the camera with kit lens and thats all. For the back i think they have a lowepro for about 39.99 its a decent sturdy bag that is great for beginners and pros alike.
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December 21, 2008 06:12 AM
If you are passionate about photography and don't want to break the bank to get started with you creativity you should definitely got for a good and reliable name like Canon or Nikon. Please don't waste you time or money with any other make. The main thinks you should consider is that when you start out in photography it's essential that you choose a good durable and solid body. You could always build a good lens set once you have a good body. If you get a cheap and light body you will end up having to updgrade in the future when you want to mount some good quality zoom lens.

I shoot professionally with my Nikon D200. I suggested one of my good friend the Canon Xti as it was the best camera for bigenners that was full of features. My friend who bought the Canon Xti lover her camera and she been producing some amazing pictures of travel photography.

The best think about going with Canon is that you will be able to perhaps borrow you friend's lens if you ever need it. Going with the Xti is a good bet.

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December 21, 2008 06:49 AM
For entry level, i would suggest Nikon D40 kit, comes with an 18-55mm lens/

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December 21, 2008 07:50 PM
I'm a beginner and I recently purchased a Nikon D40. It was a whimsical purchase at a local Circuit City that was going out of business. Since I purchased, I've spent some time doing research on lenses, external flashes, etc. I think I got really lucky with my purchase. I could've easily purchased a Canon if the price was right. I've gotten some great picture of my son with the kit lens (see attached) and now I'm looking to get a new lens to do more portrait shots. For ~$100, you can get a 50mm normal lens that gets great reviews. It has a f1.8 which allows you to control the depth of field easily.

http://www.nikonusa.com/Find-Your-Nikon/ProductDetail.page?pid=2137

Good luck and enjoy...


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December 22, 2008 04:00 PM
i agree that the Canon XSi might be a good way to go, if you're looking for a starter DSLR. I've had my XTi for over a year and a half now, and I love it. I just recently rolled over the counter - over 10,000 pictures, and still going very strong! It has a good range of more advanced features, but is still accessible as a point-and-shoot camera, so you can work your way into doing more interesting things with photography. You can start within 20 minutes out opf the box with a charged battery and a CF memory card on hand. The basic lens that comes with the package is an excellent starter lens. I would definintely look for a carrying bag and perhaps a cheapie camera stand. If you're into group photos with yourself in it, you might want to consider a remote, although not necessarily the ones Canon offers. I have a cheap $8 universal remote I got from Wal Mart that I was able to easily program as a wireless remote for the camera. There are tons of photography forums online that can show you how to do it.

Good luck and happy shooting!

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