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M$1 May 31, 2009 11:25 PM

What do you consider a sport? I believe true sports are contests where I can determine who the winner is without an expert judge.

I saw an article where a woman said that pole dancing should be an Olympic sport.
""If you look at the parallel bars or any gymnastic sport -- the flexibility, the movement, the co-ordination, the strength -- all of that has to be done on this bar that's vertical," said Almond. from http://www.torontosun.com/news/torontoandgta/2009/05/28/9594771-sun.html I personally believve that if I can't figure who the winner is it isn't as sport. I don't want to diminish the athleticism of the people who participate but, why rhythmic gymnastics and not pole dancing? What do you think?
http://www.torontosun.com/news/torontoandgta/2009/05/28/Pole248b.jpg
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June 01, 2009 04:06 AM
IMHO, I think we've strayed far from the original ideas of competitive sport. Sports were non-lethal ways of developing skills for survival, whether that entailed hunting, offensive warfare, or defense against attack.

Modern definitions of sport often ignore this, especially in the USA, where cheerleading, dancing, and curling are considered sporting activities. No doubt, there are certain physical requirements and even great levels of athleticism required for success...but in a traditional sense, no attacker would be scared away by a sparkly unitard and a swirling ribbon.

Some may take offense at that view...but it's just one opinion.

Some sports are obvious: archery, wrestling, boxing, American football, shotput, javelin.

Weightlifting demonstrates strength. Animals do this to intimidate trespassers. Knock down trees, claw through bark, slap tails on the water.

Baseball and basketball are less obvious. Team tactics and expert throwing abilities are important. But there are many artificial rules and regulations that make the game...not the guidance of physical activity. The artificialness (if that's a word) is what causes people to question the label of "sport". Look at softball...it takes the artificial game of baseball and makes everything less strenuous and less dangerous, more open to recreational participation by people with zero experience. Less of a sport? Or the same level of artificial activity?

Don't take me wrong. My wife used to play softball. She tells me I throw like a girl. (I'm happy she doesn't make me use her pink glove.) She throws harder than most guys I know. But I still tell her that it's not a real sport.

I was a coxswain for a short bit. Hard to see the application as a traditional sport, until you see the guys I worked with. Imagine 8 men ranging from 160-200+ pounds. These guys could row for miles fast enough to pull a water skier, then jump out of the boat for a 3-4 mile run, then into the weight room for another half-hour. Sounds like a perfect assault team, if you ask me.

Baseball? Stand in one place for 90% of the time on defense. Sit in place for 99% of the time when on offense. Chew tobacco. Spit.

Big contrast to having your arm bashed by a saber in fencing. Or skiing cross-country, then shooting tiny targets while forcing your heartbeat to drop. Or throwing another wrestler with nothing but your own strength and skill.

The debate will continue. The farther we are from hand-to-hand combat, the more we need competitive sport to satisfy basic survival instincts. It would be improper (un-civilized) to bash each other over the head with no real prize of food, property, territory. So, as civilized people, we must find ways to get the rush, the stress, the feeling of victory, and the satisfaction of rest and recovery.

Pole dancing? Well...that's a different set of instincts that come into play.


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May 31, 2009 11:31 PM
A "Sport" is an activity that can have a set of rules or customs and played in a competitive manner. I believe a sport must be physical, so I would not go as far to call a beauty pageant a sport, yet rather would call it a competition or a contest. Just because you do not have the trained eye to see who is a better gymnast, doesn't mean it's not a sport. Some sports require judging to decipher a winner, actually most sports do, including basketball.

Any sport with a judge in my mind is a real sport, as they can play competitively. To come to think of it, most sports have judges, but they do not call them that, they call them referees. So, essentially the referee acts as the judge in the sport, yet does not always come up with the final outcome on which team wins or loses. For example, a referee in a basketball game is essentially a judge. It's his decision to decide whether or not that ball left the shooter's hands before the buzzer went off.

I believe any sport with a judge is certainly a sport, as long as they have a set way they are judging, and the judging is done fairly of course.

Gymnastics is a sport, as the contenders are rewarded points for their actions by the judges, and it's played competitively.

Gymnastics is more of a complicated sport. Watch the video @wdave , because this is definitely a sport. I know from experience and having friends and family who are gymnasts that this is certainly a sport. You sweat, you feel pain, and you work very hard to accomplish your goals and dreams to be a champion.

Likewise, cheerleading is a sport. Watch that video below as well.

Horseback riding is a sport as well, as they practice technique.

Dancing is a sport, as they practice form and function.

I would say it's safe to conclude that pole dancing is a sport as well.

Wikipedia defines pole dancing as, "Pole dancing is a sport and a form of performing art, a combination of dancing and gymnastics."

Source(s):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sports
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gymnastics
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheerleading
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pole_dance


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June 01, 2009 10:43 PM
I believe a sport is something that requires athletic skill and can be played in direct competition with at least one other person.

Under my theory, golf is not a sport. It is a game of skill. Same for archery.

Also, car/boat/horse racing are not sports. The fact that equestrian events are in the Olympics is ridiculous to me, but that is another rant entirely.

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June 03, 2009 07:28 AM
if, the drunker you get - the better you perform. then it is not a sport.

i think the cartoonist from mtv's the real world SF said that. its totally true.

and you must walk the course to be a golfer.

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June 04, 2009 07:45 PM
I believe sport is where there is a competition between 2 or more persons where there is an objective and there is a clear cut winner of that objective.

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