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M$2 March 09, 2009 08:45 PM

What do you think of the "new" Shakespeare portrait?

The only known portrait of William Shakespeare thought to be painted when he was still alive (in 1610, he was 46) was unveiled today:

http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/europe/03/09/william.shakespeare.portrait/index.html

What do you think? Do you care? Do you think it looks the same as the others we've always had, or is it different enough to be a substantial new discovery? It's certainly big news in my world, as you could well imagine!
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March 09, 2009 08:51 PM
Interesting...I think that it is strange it took so long to have discovered a painting like this, but it was quite an interesting picture as it differs to many of the Shakespeare portrait's we see today.

I love when I find new facts on Mahalo and I am actually quite interested in Shakespeare. My sister has done a project about him and noticed that there was very little facts and graphics that could be included - so I can now show her this.

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March 09, 2009 08:57 PM
Look at the contrast of this photo and of this one:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a2/Shakespeare.jpg

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March 09, 2009 11:16 PM - New Source
It's actually been in the Cobbe family for 300 years. The thing is, they didn't know it was Shakespeare until one of the family was at an exhibit put on by the Folger, and saw a portrait that looked almost exactly like the one that was hanging in their collection. The real news isn't so much the discovery, it is the confirmation that they've done the appropriate tests and verified it to a sufficient degree that the experts in the field consider it legitimate.

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March 09, 2009 08:52 PM
I found it to be quite interesting, especially the collar. Note the receding hairline, the brown beard, the straight nose. Why is his hair a different color? When I saw the date it occurred to me to wonder if Shakespeare's writings contributed to the Puritan backlash a couple of decades later.

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March 09, 2009 08:58 PM
@morriss003 - I think that is a good observation. I'd say he is either wearing a wig, or his hair has naturally changed, or the artist painted it purposelly like that.

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March 09, 2009 09:00 PM
It's certainly a flattering portrait, and is already raising a good deal of speculation regarding his health, wealth, etc.
After reading some of the commentary, there are a lot of conclusions being drawn that I can't give credence to. For instance, the wealth indicated by his apparent well-being and expensive lace. How do we know this isn't a portrait in costume, or perhaps rented/donated by someone? Could this be a flattering bit of artistry depicting Shakespeare as he "should" be revered, not as he actually was? Maybe the old time version of the "after" effect of a "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy" episode? Okay, that last was for a giggle, but it was intended to induce more speculation, not establish certainty based on a single new image.
I'm probably a little over-skeptical on this subject though. It seems like any time a discovery is made of an item or bit of architecture for which we don't know the function, the "conclusion" is drawn that the piece was religious in nature. I've learned to cast around for other possible explanations so I don't get locked into a false assumption.
He shore is pretty in the new picture tho, ain't he?

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March 09, 2009 11:22 PM
I'm not so worried about the wealth claims - Occam's Razor says that it's more likely he was wealthy, than going through elaborate scams to pretend. I'm a little worried though about the people saying things like that he is "clearly a good listener" and "obviously of high intelligence." A 400 year old portrait can be many things, but never "clearly" or "obviously".

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March 10, 2009 02:14 AM
Amen! (I hate the word "obviously"!)

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March 09, 2009 09:35 PM
I like the new one. He looks interesting, intelligent, and successful. Not that he looks unsuccessful in the other portrait. But in the new one you suspect that he has firsthand knowledge of some of the romantic entanglements in is plays!

He also looks like he's evaluating the viewer.

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March 09, 2009 09:52 PM
He looks just like Ben Affleck! How did they know?!?!

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March 09, 2009 11:14 PM
Dude Ben Affleck played Mercutio (Ned Alleyn) in Shakespeare In Love, not the title character - That was Joseph Fiennes. :)

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March 09, 2009 11:55 PM
He looks just like Joseph Fiennes! How did they know?!?!

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March 09, 2009 11:03 PM
John Aubrey described him as a “handsome, well shaped man”, a description that fits this portrait far better then the earlier portraits, where he is depicted as dumpy, ill-shaven and slightly weary-looking writer.


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March 10, 2009 02:15 AM
Maybe the difference is Friday Night vs. Saturday morning? :)

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March 09, 2009 11:07 PM
He looks much like I thought he would. He's either been quite successful, hence having a portrait completed or he borrowed the clothes. His eyes seem a little weird, like his left is a bit of a wandering eye. Almost got a bit of a Mona Lisa smile going, a bit of a smirk in there. Nice to see an actual likeness.

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