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I have found that UFO sightings, like other sightings fall into two main categories.
Those who have seen them and believe, and those who have not seen them and think it's poppycock.
It is funny how our culture has a 'see it with my own eye' rule.
A person will generally tell you they believe in ghosts only when they have had a personal paranormal experience.
Most people tell you adamantly that big foot is alive and well only when one has crossed their path.
It gives the impression that people have very little faith in what others experience.
I tend to fall into that grey area with UFOs (no pun intended).
I have not seen one with my own eyes, but I won't sit and refute all of the eyewitnesses and sightings.
Just yesterday I was sitting on my neighbor's porch listening to his personal accounts of UFO sightings. He said that on two separate occasions he lost large amounts of time, and could not account for them.
I know he's not crazy... I believe his story, even though it's not mine.
I just wish I could blame UFOs for the large amount of missing time that I lose here on Mahalo.
(happy UFO day!)
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It is believed that the government doing some covering up. They said, it was the crash of some military equipments used for some secret mission.
I think, it is true. Then the government has to keep the secret and they don't want the general public to know about what the military and secret services are doing.
If there is and alien UFO, then the government may not be able to do cover up. The truth will come out eventually.
Anyway, keep looking for the truth to come out.
Source(s):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_UFO_day
http://www.holidayinsights.com/moreholidays/July/worldufoday.htm
http://www.ecologynews.com/cuenews23.html
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"The eye cannot be blamed for what the mind sees"
We see what we believe - and if we believe that a UFO is out there - then we will see it in the sky. Evidence or no evidence - this is what explains the thousands of sightings and the many that believe in extra terrestrial life visiting the earth.
Furthermore, the unknown is much more intriguing than the 'known' - that's what makes the cosmos so mystical.
Scientifically - carbon based life is very likely somewhere else in the universe and possibly in many places.
Source(s):
NOVA
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No one has been able to get another beyond odd photos and some radar signatures.
If visitation was happening. Some type of physical evidence should have been found by now.
Of course you can argue that the government is just very capable is grabbing the evidence before the people find it, but i just don't see that as very likely.
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there is a jpl website that tells you the latest count on extrasolar planets.
Source(s):
gravitywarpdrive.com
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greys
http://www.optcorp.com/
http://www.space.com/top10_alienencounters_debunked.html
http://www.planetary.org/explore/topics/extrasolar/
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July 02, 2009 10:28 AM
Today is the World UFO Day.
What is, according to you, the single best argument against the reality of UFO phenomenon? I'm talking about those circa 5% of good quality UFO reports, submitted by competent persons, the reports which, nevertheless, remain unexplained even after a careful examination of all available facts.
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| July 02, 2009 09:24 PM |
Those who have seen them and believe, and those who have not seen them and think it's poppycock.
It is funny how our culture has a 'see it with my own eye' rule.
A person will generally tell you they believe in ghosts only when they have had a personal paranormal experience.
Most people tell you adamantly that big foot is alive and well only when one has crossed their path.
It gives the impression that people have very little faith in what others experience.
I tend to fall into that grey area with UFOs (no pun intended).
I have not seen one with my own eyes, but I won't sit and refute all of the eyewitnesses and sightings.
Just yesterday I was sitting on my neighbor's porch listening to his personal accounts of UFO sightings. He said that on two separate occasions he lost large amounts of time, and could not account for them.
I know he's not crazy... I believe his story, even though it's not mine.
I just wish I could blame UFOs for the large amount of missing time that I lose here on Mahalo.
(happy UFO day!)
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Thanks for a thoughtful response!
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July 02, 2009 12:42 PM
World UFO day is celebrated on July 2nd to remember the date of the supposed UFO crash in the 1947 Roswell UFO Incident. It is believed that the government doing some covering up. They said, it was the crash of some military equipments used for some secret mission.
I think, it is true. Then the government has to keep the secret and they don't want the general public to know about what the military and secret services are doing.
If there is and alien UFO, then the government may not be able to do cover up. The truth will come out eventually.
Anyway, keep looking for the truth to come out.
Source(s):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_UFO_day
http://www.holidayinsights.com/moreholidays/July/worldufoday.htm
http://www.ecologynews.com/cuenews23.html
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July 02, 2009 02:16 PM
Here's a quote I recently heard (sorry that I cannot attribute it to a specific source) "The eye cannot be blamed for what the mind sees"
We see what we believe - and if we believe that a UFO is out there - then we will see it in the sky. Evidence or no evidence - this is what explains the thousands of sightings and the many that believe in extra terrestrial life visiting the earth.
Furthermore, the unknown is much more intriguing than the 'known' - that's what makes the cosmos so mystical.
Scientifically - carbon based life is very likely somewhere else in the universe and possibly in many places.
Source(s):
NOVA
my 2c
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July 02, 2009 04:53 PM
That's good. But, what about all those radar tracks that still remain unexplained, once the equipment has been checked for errors? There are literary thousands of such cases on record.
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July 02, 2009 04:57 PM
Pterodactyl of course! ;) Flying at high altitude...
http://www.subgenius.com/bigfist/fun/devivals/X-Day98/POST-X-DAY/X-DayPhotos/ZEPOL/Z-Misc.Scenes/pterodactyl.JPG
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July 02, 2009 05:04 PM
But really, even though there are certain sightings and some evidence that seem to remain open and plausible...from my point of view until a being or an actual ship physically appears (if that's how they would 'visit' us) - from a scientific perspective - the jury must return a verdict of - no finding.
That doesn't mean that I don't think that life exists in other parts of the universe - in some form or another.
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That doesn't mean that I don't think that life exists in other parts of the universe - in some form or another.
July 02, 2009 05:21 PM
Yes, of course, the Pterodactyl! :)
http://www.pteroworks.com/images_skunk/baby_p_images/images/52_ptero_0412.jpg
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July 02, 2009 04:03 PM
They're all good! I'd bet the person who writes the best sci-fi could convince a lot of people that they saw UFOs. Pictures are so easy to alter, so that's not good enough evidence. It makes for good fiction and spectulation by the general public and by scientists.
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July 02, 2009 05:10 PM
That's right, pictures are easy to alter, certainly these days, and it is possible to full some people some time, no doubt about that.
However, by the same token, fakes are easy to spot, thanks to many sophisticated tools and methods of photographic analysis that modern laboratories have at their disposal.
Sure enough, there are UFO photos that have been thoroughly analyzed and re-analyzed, such as McMinnville 1950 photos, and they still stand as genuine, i.e. no evidence of "altering" has been ever found:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qn2J-uoV3zY
http://www.ufomystic.com/wp-content/uploads/ufooreg.jpg
http://www.nationalufocenter.com/artman/uploads/mcminnivilleufo.jpg
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However, by the same token, fakes are easy to spot, thanks to many sophisticated tools and methods of photographic analysis that modern laboratories have at their disposal.
Sure enough, there are UFO photos that have been thoroughly analyzed and re-analyzed, such as McMinnville 1950 photos, and they still stand as genuine, i.e. no evidence of "altering" has been ever found:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qn2J-uoV3zY
July 02, 2009 07:52 PM
- New Source
"A genuine photo does not an alien race make." - me
There will always be Unidentified Flying Objects (UFO), they will never be made by being from another planet (non-humans).
Carbon based life exists on Earth. Our ability to understand life is based on our limited knowledge of carbon. We can't imagine anything else.
Life exists elsewhere, sure, but not as we understand it. Limiting the universe to our single celled view of reality is egotistical and shortsighted.
The very idea that creatures from other planets came this far in devices that look like they were built right here on Earth is ridiculous. Even more so that they crashed and we have the bits tucked away somewhere under lock and key.
While there will always be things the general public will never see or know without the proper security clearance, there will never be aliens from other planets to be found.
There will always be things we can't identify, that doesn't make them alien. It just makes them Unknown to You.
It should be FOUM (Flying Objects Unidentified by Me) Day.
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There will always be Unidentified Flying Objects (UFO), they will never be made by being from another planet (non-humans).
Carbon based life exists on Earth. Our ability to understand life is based on our limited knowledge of carbon. We can't imagine anything else.
Life exists elsewhere, sure, but not as we understand it. Limiting the universe to our single celled view of reality is egotistical and shortsighted.
The very idea that creatures from other planets came this far in devices that look like they were built right here on Earth is ridiculous. Even more so that they crashed and we have the bits tucked away somewhere under lock and key.
While there will always be things the general public will never see or know without the proper security clearance, there will never be aliens from other planets to be found.
There will always be things we can't identify, that doesn't make them alien. It just makes them Unknown to You.
It should be FOUM (Flying Objects Unidentified by Me) Day.
July 02, 2009 09:56 PM
@silverhammer - that's very good, you should have posted it as a separate answer.
Now, consider a possibility that UFO is not literary a spacecraft from another planet. UFOs look the way they look because they mimic shapes and images, spaceship, probe, drone, etc, that fit our temporary cultural framework, that of modern, scientifically minded, technological societies. In other words, they may be presenting themselves to us in terms that are most palatable to us.
Your argument is valid and sound as long as one thinks about UFOs and aliens strictly in terms of so-called Extraterrestrial Hypothesis and interplanetary spaceships. But, there is nothing about UFOs that suggests that they are nuts 'n' bolts spaceships build by carbon based life forms from another planet. Quite to the contrary - many have noticed a peculiarly counterintuitive and nonsensical behavior of UFOs and their occupants in particular. Some scientists have even claimed that apparent absurdity of the phenomenon argues against it being intelligently controlled, or even real.
Most people who studied the phenomenon, however, have realized that a simple image of an alien as "something like us, but from another planet" is not quite subtle enough, and they have moved beyond that basic assumption.
The reigning paradigm now is that there may be a cognitive mismatch between them and us, due to differences in evolutionary processes that brought about our respective species. This line of thought is known as Incommensurability Problem:
http://www.ufoskeptic.org/davis.html
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Now, consider a possibility that UFO is not literary a spacecraft from another planet. UFOs look the way they look because they mimic shapes and images, spaceship, probe, drone, etc, that fit our temporary cultural framework, that of modern, scientifically minded, technological societies. In other words, they may be presenting themselves to us in terms that are most palatable to us.
Your argument is valid and sound as long as one thinks about UFOs and aliens strictly in terms of so-called Extraterrestrial Hypothesis and interplanetary spaceships. But, there is nothing about UFOs that suggests that they are nuts 'n' bolts spaceships build by carbon based life forms from another planet. Quite to the contrary - many have noticed a peculiarly counterintuitive and nonsensical behavior of UFOs and their occupants in particular. Some scientists have even claimed that apparent absurdity of the phenomenon argues against it being intelligently controlled, or even real.
Most people who studied the phenomenon, however, have realized that a simple image of an alien as "something like us, but from another planet" is not quite subtle enough, and they have moved beyond that basic assumption.
The reigning paradigm now is that there may be a cognitive mismatch between them and us, due to differences in evolutionary processes that brought about our respective species. This line of thought is known as Incommensurability Problem:
http://www.ufoskeptic.org/davis.html
July 03, 2009 12:59 AM
Who's to say what's the official protocol..?
We, Earthlings, have no experience in these matters, no reference point, no precedent, as to what an official interplanetary contact suppose to be like.
The aliens have reportedly presented themselves to U.S. presidents, and to other world leaders, too. They have landed at Air Force bases, AND into people's very backyards... what else do they have to do before we recognize it as "official"?
I think the ball is in our court. We'll have to come to terms with their presence, and consider the implications thereof.
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We, Earthlings, have no experience in these matters, no reference point, no precedent, as to what an official interplanetary contact suppose to be like.
The aliens have reportedly presented themselves to U.S. presidents, and to other world leaders, too. They have landed at Air Force bases, AND into people's very backyards... what else do they have to do before we recognize it as "official"?
I think the ball is in our court. We'll have to come to terms with their presence, and consider the implications thereof.
July 03, 2009 01:13 AM
I am expecting superior life form to have an understanding of our customs via interception of our transmissions. If they wanted to make themselves known to us it they would simply have to take over the worlds TV networks for a short period, state their intentions. Would be polite we threw them a party & served appetizers & cocktails. That would be official.
What if "aliens" are not from another planet. Rather humans coming back in time from the future. What do you think about this idea?
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What if "aliens" are not from another planet. Rather humans coming back in time from the future. What do you think about this idea?
July 03, 2009 01:30 AM
Indeed, they may be something else than "plain" ETs.
I did actually consider the idea of them being us from the future, coming back to harvest some genes, and try to fix what we've been messing up for the past 150 years, i.e. the biosphere. It's certainly one of the more intriguing possibilities.
As for them being able to learn all about us & our customs, that's true... The question is, could they explain themselves to us? Can we grasp them, their mindset?
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I did actually consider the idea of them being us from the future, coming back to harvest some genes, and try to fix what we've been messing up for the past 150 years, i.e. the biosphere. It's certainly one of the more intriguing possibilities.
As for them being able to learn all about us & our customs, that's true... The question is, could they explain themselves to us? Can we grasp them, their mindset?
July 03, 2009 02:11 AM
The utter lack of actual physical evidence. No one has been able to get another beyond odd photos and some radar signatures.
If visitation was happening. Some type of physical evidence should have been found by now.
Of course you can argue that the government is just very capable is grabbing the evidence before the people find it, but i just don't see that as very likely.
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July 03, 2009 05:46 PM
Well, there is more in terms of physical evidence than just "odd photos and some radar signatures", even in public domain. The government certainly has more of it, but the quantity doesn't matter - the Air Force may have more of alien trinkets in its possession, but it doesn't mean they understand it any better than you and me.
The elusiveness of UFO phenomenon is an intrinsic part of it, by design. It's entirely possible that these aliens do not value the scientific materialism and methodology as much as we do, and it makes no sense to them to submit themselves to that particular type of scrutiny. By remaining elusive, they may be prompting us to move beyond our old metaphysical molds of thinking, as a precondition for a more substantial communication between them and us.
http://www.xs4all.nl/~zoc/gnothe/pix/rosewell.jpg
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The elusiveness of UFO phenomenon is an intrinsic part of it, by design. It's entirely possible that these aliens do not value the scientific materialism and methodology as much as we do, and it makes no sense to them to submit themselves to that particular type of scrutiny. By remaining elusive, they may be prompting us to move beyond our old metaphysical molds of thinking, as a precondition for a more substantial communication between them and us.
July 03, 2009 10:30 PM
I am not saying I believe or don’t believe because you have to be pretty arrogant with all the scientific discoveries out there to think that we are the only ones out there, what I believe is that because we live a planet surrounding a common G class star that there are probably tens of millions of planets in our Galaxy alone that have some type of life on them, and probably thousands that have life that is recognizable to use as we know it. Now getting back the best argument doesn’t someone just think that maybe we would get a pic of a so-called UFO? It seems to me with all the alleged sightings that just once one of this objects would hover over a major city some where but it does not seem to happen that way ever, now I have been told by people and have heard this elsewhere to go out get some night vision binoculars and look around in certain areas of the sky at night, I guessing in the western states. I have not done this yet but if I have money and time I may, I keep an open mind on this subject but seriously doubt we have been visited there is a jpl website that tells you the latest count on extrasolar planets.
Source(s):
gravitywarpdrive.com
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greys
http://www.optcorp.com/
http://www.space.com/top10_alienencounters_debunked.html
http://www.planetary.org/explore/topics/extrasolar/
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July 03, 2009 11:02 PM
I can agree with you that various bits of evidence, photos, videos, etc, are elusive at best, but, still, it's the cumulative effect of 60+ years of our collective, worldwide UFO experience that's speaks to me.
Talking about an unambiguous sighting over a major city, is Phoenix, Arizona, big enough?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYvHPYTvBtE
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Talking about an unambiguous sighting over a major city, is Phoenix, Arizona, big enough?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYvHPYTvBtE
July 04, 2009 04:13 AM
I would like to believe that we will see what is out but the phoenix incident really does not prove anything. I did have some tell me get a pair of night vision goggles and I could see what cannot be seen normally, this guy said he worked for JPL, I have always been interested in what is out there but the Phoenix incident along with serveral others really does not make me believe that they are more likely, there are also conspiracies about the moon landings and how the astronauts said there was some other intelligence up there, and about a year or 2 ago there was a report on the gap in the apollo tape, this was alleged way before, when I have money and time I will go with night vision goggles, again I am not saying I do or dont believe but I really would like more proof than grainy video.
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