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November 09, 2009 04:55 PM
Why does my generic medicine not work as well as the name brand? (Read the details first)
I take Zantac 150mg to help with acid in my stomach. It keeps my duodenum from acting up and swelling. If I forget to take it, my liver starts hurting. So I can always tell when I forgot to take it.
Zantac is a little pricey considering I take 2-3 pills a day, every day (or I can't eat). I bought the Equate brand Rantidine 150 mg which is just a generic version of Zantac... so I thought.
The Equate brand is different than Zantac. Zantac kills my acid enough that I don't have nauseousness, equate brand does not and I have to take Zofran with it. With Zantac 1 pill will keep my pain from creeping up on me after eating. Equate brand does not. I still have pain after eating. Not as bad as if I forgot the pill, but it still hurts. Zantac kills all of my acid in my stomach which keeps my duodenum from swelling, which means my stomach empties completely, which means I can eat like a normal person. With equate brand it doesn't. I remain full feeling, just not as full as if I didn't take a pill... this causes the nauseousness and makes me unable to eat regularly.
I thought off brands were supposed to be the same since it has the same ingredient (rantidine 150 mg). But obviously not. I am exhausted from having a medicine that doesn't work like it is supposed to and I've been sleeping too much and barely have energy to research. I couldn't find anything on why this is.
I am looking for a good resource on why this is. Something reputable. I can't wait til Friday. I get paid and I will buy the name brand ZANTAC and I will feel better. But I am so curious as to why the off brand failed so bad.
Zantac is a little pricey considering I take 2-3 pills a day, every day (or I can't eat). I bought the Equate brand Rantidine 150 mg which is just a generic version of Zantac... so I thought.
The Equate brand is different than Zantac. Zantac kills my acid enough that I don't have nauseousness, equate brand does not and I have to take Zofran with it. With Zantac 1 pill will keep my pain from creeping up on me after eating. Equate brand does not. I still have pain after eating. Not as bad as if I forgot the pill, but it still hurts. Zantac kills all of my acid in my stomach which keeps my duodenum from swelling, which means my stomach empties completely, which means I can eat like a normal person. With equate brand it doesn't. I remain full feeling, just not as full as if I didn't take a pill... this causes the nauseousness and makes me unable to eat regularly.
I thought off brands were supposed to be the same since it has the same ingredient (rantidine 150 mg). But obviously not. I am exhausted from having a medicine that doesn't work like it is supposed to and I've been sleeping too much and barely have energy to research. I couldn't find anything on why this is.
I am looking for a good resource on why this is. Something reputable. I can't wait til Friday. I get paid and I will buy the name brand ZANTAC and I will feel better. But I am so curious as to why the off brand failed so bad.
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| November 09, 2009 08:26 PM |
She told me that although the active ingredient and a name brand and its generic are chemically identical, they are not always the same in how they are released into our system. In many cases, she told me, that isn't important but sometimes it is. Some meds require an even release over time. For example, both the brand name and the generic of drug "X" may both contain 20mg of chemically identical drugs (as required by the FDA), but the brand name will release that 20mg at a very steady rate over several hours where a generic may release it unevenly or even dump all 20mg into your system at one time.
I've always been curious as to why that might be. Your question motivated me to do a bit of research. Here is what I found in the Merck Manual:
--quote-- Although 250 mg of a trade-name chemical is identical to 250 mg of the same generic chemical, a 250-mg generic pill containing that chemical may or may not have the same effect in the body as a 250-mg trade-name pill. That is because everything that is used in a particular product formulation affects how it is absorbed into the bloodstream. Inactive ingredients such as coatings, stabilizers, fillers, binders, flavorings, diluents, and others are necessary to turn a chemical into a usable drug product. ---/quote---
http://www.merck.com/mmhe/sec02/ch017/ch017b.html
The take away is that although the active ingredients are identical in the name brand and the generic, the inactive ingredients may not be, and sometimes that makes a difference in how they work.
I also found this very interesting (from Columbia University):
--quote-- Bioavailability is the amount of time the drug takes to be absorbed into the body under identical circumstances; manufacturers of generic drugs must show that the bioavailability of their product does not differ by any statistically significant amount (often considered 20 percent from the mean absorption) from that of the brand-name product. Generics have the same amount of active ingredient; the amount of time it takes for your body to absorb it may be slightly different, but not by enough to change the effectiveness of the drug. ---/quote---
http://www.goaskalice.columbia.edu/2547.html
In other words, when the FDA says that the bioavailability of brand name and the generic are identical, they don't actually mean identical. They mean they are pretty close. In most cases, close is good enough. But (again quoting the Merck Manual)
--quote-- Drugs that must be given in very precise amounts are less likely to be interchangeable, because the difference between an effective dose and a harmful or an ineffective dose (the margin of safety) is small. ---/quote---
Two years ago, ABC News did a story titled "Generic Drugs: Dangerous Differences?" that investigated these very issues.
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Depression/Story?id=3731555
It's interesting to note that in this report it pointed out that sometimes patients actually do better on the generic.
I guess the bottom line is that generics are usually just fine (and definitely cheaper) and occasionally even better, but you need to pay attention to your body's response and be prepared to stick with the name brand if the generic doesn't work for you.
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November 09, 2009 07:51 PM
Despite the fact that generic and brand name drugs are supposed to contain the same ingredients, there are still variations that would cause the less effectiveness that you are describing. For starters, there is an allowance of 7% over/under of the drug content variation between generic and brand name drugs. Also, the rate of absorption can be different (called bioavailability), which can render the generic version up to 20% more/less effective.
More factors can be found in the article below.
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http://www.roadback.org/index.cfm/fuseaction/education.display/display_id/1...
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November 09, 2009 08:01 PM
Now, this may not be the most reputable source but it did have an interesting tidbit that I didn't even think of. I've noticed the same thing you have, but with allergy medications, and I've always wondered why the generic didn't work as well. In this epinions piece that was written by someone who has studied phamacology, they say that the active ingredient (rantidine in this case) is the same, but the inert ingredients are different. The inert ingredients are just as important, since they help the body absorb the drug. So while the active ingredient is the one that you really need, if the inactive ingredient is just a little bit different it can have an affect on the way the medicine should work. I'll give the link to the source at the bottom, it could be one of the explanations as to why the generic isn't working as well.
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http://www.epinions.com/well-review-2E4-764A91E-39D9D4B8-prod1
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I found those reports really interesting too. I'm going to pay a bit more attention to generics now. If it doesn't seem to be working, I'll try a different brand before returning to the name brand.