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How would I prove this one way or the other?

If a not = 0, then (x^(2+a)+y^(2+a))^2 not = (x^2+y^2)^(2+a)
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April 20, 2009 04:43 AM
When a = 0
LHS = (x²⁺⁰ + y²⁺⁰)² = (x² + y²)²
RHS = (x² + y²)²⁺⁰ = (x² + y²)²
LHS = RHS

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When a > 0

Expand Left hand side (LHS) and Right hand side (RHS) and compare:

LHS = (x²⁺ᴬ + y²⁺ᴬ)² = x²⁽²⁺ᴬ⁾ + 2x²⁺ᴬy²⁺ᴬ + y²⁽²⁺ᴬ⁾
LHS has 3 distinct terms

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .2+a
RHS = (x² + y²)²⁺ᴬ = ∑ C(2+a,k) x²⁺ᴬ⁻ᴷ yᴷ, where C(2+a,k) = 2+a choose k
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .k=0

RHS has 2+a+1 = (3+a) distinct terms (3+a > 3, since a>1)

LHS ≠ RHS (since they have different number of distinct terms)

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For a < 0 → check a = -1, a = -2, a < -2

When a = -1
LHS = (x²⁻¹ + y²⁻¹)² = (x + y)² = x² + 2xy + y²
RHS = (x² + y²)²⁻¹ = x² + y²
LHS ≠ RHS

When a = -2
LHS = (x²⁻² + y²⁻²)² = (x⁰ + y⁰)² = (1+1)² = 4
RHS = (x² + y²)²⁻² = (x² + y²)⁰ = 1
LHS ≠ RHS

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When a < -2

In this case we get into negative exponents.
I haven't quite figured out how to prove this algebraically yet.


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April 20, 2009 05:14 PM
You have assumed that "a" is an integer. That is not clear from the statement of the problem.

This isn't quite a proof yet, but it is a demonstration for certain special cases, which is certainly progress.

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April 20, 2009 05:24 PM
I haven't looked through the argument in detail, but...

"LHS ≠ RHS (since they have different number of distinct terms)"

Is this true as a general statement? Maybe I'm not understanding what exactly you;re beinh asked to prove here.

If it's "There does not exist any x,y for which LHS(x,y) = RHS(x,y)" then showing there are different terms on LHS & RHS hasn't got you anywhere as far as I can see.

If it's "It is not true that for all x.y LHS(x,y) = RHS(x,y)" then you could prove that more easily by just demonstrating a counter-example.

I'm afraid I don't want to spend any more time on this than a quick skim, but that's what strikes me at a quick glance at the quesion and the proposed answer.

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April 21, 2009 01:15 AM
Assume (x²⁺ᴬ + y²⁺ᴬ)² = (x² + y²)²⁺ᴬ

x²⁽²⁺ᴬ⁾ + x²⁺ᴬy²⁺ᴬ + x²⁺ᴬy²⁺ᴬ + y²⁽²⁺ᴬ⁾ = (x² + y²) (x² + y²)¹⁺ᴬ
x² (x²⁺ᴬ + xᴬy²⁺ᴬ) + y² (x²⁺ᴬyᴬ + y²⁺ᴬ) = x² (x² + y²)¹⁺ᴬ + y² (x² + y²)¹⁺ᴬ

(x²⁺ᴬ + xᴬy²⁺ᴬ) = (x² + y²)¹⁺ᴬ
(x²⁺ᴬyᴬ + y²⁺ᴬ) = (x² + y²)¹⁺ᴬ

(x²⁺ᴬ + xᴬy²⁺ᴬ) = (x²⁺ᴬyᴬ + y²⁺ᴬ)

x²⁺ᴬ = x²⁺ᴬyᴬ
yᴬ = 1
y = 1 or a = 0

xᴬy²⁺ᴬ = y²⁺ᴬ
xᴬ = 1
x = 1 or a = 0

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Case 1: x=1,y≠1 or x≠1,y=1 or x≠1,y≠1 ⇒ a=0

Case 2: x=1,y=1
(x²⁺ᴬ + y²⁺ᴬ)² = (x² + y²)²⁺ᴬ
(1²⁺ᴬ + 1²⁺ᴬ)² = (1² + 1²)²⁺ᴬ
4 = 2²⁺ᴬ ⇒ a=0

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Therefore (x²⁺ᴬ + y²⁺ᴬ)² = (x² + y²)²⁺ᴬ ⇒ a=0

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April 21, 2009 01:45 AM
The fact that the statement is only true when a=0 is given.

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April 21, 2009 02:39 AM
Remember from logic:
A→B ⇔ ¬B→¬A

You asked to prove:
If a ≠ 0, then (x²⁺ᴬ + y²⁺ᴬ)² ≠ (x² + y²)²⁺ᴬ

This is equivalent to:
If ¬((x²⁺ᴬ + y²⁺ᴬ)² ≠ (x² + y²)²⁺ᴬ), then¬(a ≠ 0) or
If (x²⁺ᴬ + y²⁺ᴬ)² = (x² + y²)²⁺ᴬ then a=0
which is the logic I used in my proof

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