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M$1 December 22, 2008 01:33 AM

If my kitchen sink pipe is already frozen, is there any way to unfreeze it before the pipe bursts?

Most of the pipe is inside the wall and the wall faces the outside. And the outside today in Chicago was -2. Yes, I know I should have left a bigger drip (I left a tiny drip).

Also is there any way to tell definitively if the pipe has burst?
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December 22, 2008 01:53 AM
You might try just pointing a small space heater at the visible part of the pipe under the sink, or if you can, cut a hole in your drywall where the pipe is and use a heat gun or blow dryer to warm it up. Turn on the faucet so you can hear when the the water starts flowing again and once you get a little flow leave it on until you get full pressure as the moving water will help thaw the rest of the pipe. If you don't have any electric heaters or blow dryers (don't use a propane heater or blow torch as it could boil the water) then soak some towels in hot water and wrap the frozen part of the pipe if you can find it. The frozen part will likely be a part of the pip that runs through an outside wall. Once you've got it unfrozen leave a small trickle running at night to help prevent refreezing, and if you can, get some better insulation, or some heat wire installed. It wouldn't be a bad idea to call a plumber and get some professional help with that, and also to check if the freezing loosened any connections or caused other problems with your pipes.
I can't find a way to tell if the pipe has burst, best to cut some dry wall and get a look at it, otherwise you probably won't know until it thaws and you've got water pouring out of it. Make sure you know where to shut off that pipe if you start to thaw it and it leaks.
Good luck!
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http://www.thisoldchicago2flat.blogspot.com/2007/02/unfreezing-pipes.html
http://www.prepare.org/basic/frozen.htm



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December 22, 2008 01:42 AM
That sounds bad. I would make an access hole in the wall and work the pipe with wet hot towels right now, because it is going to be colder tonight, so your best chance is now. If you save the situation, do not only leave a big drip, try to protect the pipe with crumpled newspapers and find a better solution tomorrow. .
If the pipe has burst, you will hear and feel it when your pipe warms up. Then cut the water and wait for Joe the plumber.

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December 22, 2008 01:45 AM
You're pretty much stuck unfreezing it and seeing if there's a leak if you can't visually inspect the pipe. You might want to turn off the water first, and if you're in an apartment, I don't recommend trying to fix this yourself.

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December 22, 2008 01:50 AM
If the pipe has burst you would hear a very distinct annoying and loud sound when you go to turn on the faucet.
What I would do if i where you is turn the heat up dramatically in your house and see if you can get the ice inside the pipe to slowly melt.

If this is a constant issue for your pipes I would definitely look into getting heat snake for pvc piping .

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December 22, 2008 01:52 AM
You are going to have to open up the wall to get to the pipe. Sorry. This link gives you several methods of thawing it. Good luck.
http://www.icanfixupmyhome.com/How_To_Thaw_Frozen_Water_Pipe.html
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December 22, 2008 02:03 AM
This worked for me in a similar situation. First, fully open the faucet so as soon as there is any thawing, the water will start to run out. Second step is to find the water shutoff - if the pipe has burst you'll need to shut of the water ASAP.
Open up the drywall about where you think the pipe is frozen and grab a hair dryer. Set the hair dryer on medium heat and start to warm the pipe. It took me about half and hour but I was able to warm the pipe enough so that the water started to run again.
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December 22, 2008 02:04 AM
It's probably an epa violation but you could use antifreeze or a good -25 degree windshield washer fluid to melt it.

If it's your incoming pipe turn your heat up and pray.

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December 22, 2008 02:10 AM
if it is a metal pipe you can always try to warm it with a big battery we had to do it in a motor home once, you go down the pipe to where it is deep enough to no longer be frozen connect one side of the battery there and then one to where the pipe comes out of the wall at the sink, you need something like a big car battery, watch it very closely cause it will get hot and don't try house current it might kill you, make sure you are very safe with it it can cause a fire if you are not keeping a close eye. but it will heat up the pipe enough to defrost it, on the motor home it took about 10 minutes, but it was only about 6 feet of pipe.

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December 22, 2008 02:34 AM
If you can actually access the pipe, use a hairdryer to heat it up wherever it's frozen. Whatever you do, don't use any open flame. You're more likely to burn your house down than to fix your pipe.

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December 22, 2008 02:35 AM
shut off the water to the house, leaving on water to yard. turn water on to a slow but constant drip at yard. keep the house warm , and open any and all cupboards @ ground level to include doors to areas where pipes are believed to be. place a low wattage heater in the area where you know the pipe is frozen. patience is the best answer.
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life in ALASKA for several years. also wrap pipes with insulation. cheaper idea is clothing as a wrap, followed by plastic.


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December 22, 2008 02:40 AM
Ahem do not heat the pipe as we do not need you burning your dwelling down.

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December 22, 2008 02:46 AM
The best advise is to use a hot air hair dryer on the frozen pipe. After you get the water flowing again then use some of the heat tape to keep the pipe warm or let it drip very slowly over night. Good luck

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December 22, 2008 03:31 AM
This is corny, but it worked when I was in a bind once.. Use ThermaCare heat wraps, the ones that you put on your back or other body parts for pain. They stay hot for around 8 hours.

Hey, I said it was corny, but it truly worked. Everyone in the neighborhood had frozen/busted pipes and mine were fine. I also opened all my sink cabinets so the heat from the house could reach the pipes easier.

To see if it's frozen, try to access the pipe from the inside, it's easier and cheaper to fix sheetrock than it is the exterior of your home.

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December 22, 2008 06:56 PM
I've done this before in my basement. I usually just sit there with a hair dryer or put a portable heater on it for a long time. Wrap it up in wet towels point one of those little fan heaters at it until it thaws enough. It could be a while. My pipes were frozen once in Minnesota for over a week. I had a lot of fun peeing outside, but that was miserable.

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