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Announcement: Page management limits no longer tied to Belt Level.
Each member will have their own quota for how many pages they can manage. The starting level is 2 but you can request more as you become more experienced.
You can make the request on your profile page:
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Important to note, if you already manage more than 2 pages they will not be taken from you. You will just be restricted from taking on any new ones until you request to have your limit raised.
You can make the request on your profile page:
Important to note, if you already manage more than 2 pages they will not be taken from you. You will just be restricted from taking on any new ones until you request to have your limit raised.
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I think this is a good idea from Mahalo's perspective.
I have to admit, I am one who hasn't done enough to my managed pages yet. I have grand plans for all of them, I just haven't reserved the block of time to do it yet.
There seemed to be more incentive to go out and get points/belts than to actually do the page editing. Now the focus is on editing pages.
That being said, I think a few new features should be added that go along well with this scenario.
Since you are monitoring the quality of the management, how about allowing more control of the pages to those who do a good job?
For starters, simple things like editing the label for the page, setting the guide notes to the right side, etc.
And perhaps if the page is really being managed well, the manager could be allowed to manage to some extent what ads are placed on the page?
It could get messy, but maybe even a higher ad revenue percentage for well managed pages?
It might also be nice to add some new management tools like a button for requesting redirect links.
At any rate, big updates to my pages by the end of the weekend!
(Now off to my "real" job so I will have time to do that)
I have to admit, I am one who hasn't done enough to my managed pages yet. I have grand plans for all of them, I just haven't reserved the block of time to do it yet.
There seemed to be more incentive to go out and get points/belts than to actually do the page editing. Now the focus is on editing pages.
That being said, I think a few new features should be added that go along well with this scenario.
Since you are monitoring the quality of the management, how about allowing more control of the pages to those who do a good job?
For starters, simple things like editing the label for the page, setting the guide notes to the right side, etc.
And perhaps if the page is really being managed well, the manager could be allowed to manage to some extent what ads are placed on the page?
It could get messy, but maybe even a higher ad revenue percentage for well managed pages?
It might also be nice to add some new management tools like a button for requesting redirect links.
At any rate, big updates to my pages by the end of the weekend!
(Now off to my "real" job so I will have time to do that)
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Some good suggestions in here, a few of them are things we have already discussed.
voted helpful: dannyjohnson, timcadieux
I think this is a great idea.
How will Mahalo decide how many pages are appropriate?
How will Mahalo decide how many pages are appropriate?
yes this a another good question! :)
We don't have any specific guidelines at the moment but the general rule is that if the pages you are currently managing are in good shape, then you should be able to have your limit raised.
We will decide how many pages we think you can handle based on the quality of teh pages you already manage. If you're going to request more pages, make sure your first 2 are thorough, complete, not copied from another source and useful!
When I click on "request increase" nothing happens...
Does anyone else think it's a good idea to at least add two pages managed for every belt level automatically? It only ends up being 12 for black belts and could relieve some stress from the people who are in charge of reviewing accounts.
voted helpful: greenfreelancer
Oh, and the "Request Increase" link is broken, it takes me to my profile url plus # at the end.
Can you try to do a complete refresh of the page (ctrl+shift+r/apple+shift+r) and then make the request again? Let me know if that works.
I guess it goes without saying, but I'm experiencing the same error.
EDIT: Ctrl+Shift+R fixed it. Thanks.
EDIT: Ctrl+Shift+R fixed it. Thanks.
Hmm, this doesn't seem very practical. Now someone has to monitor thousands of users constantly requesting page limit increases? Well I guess we will see how it goes.
You mention if we currently have more than 2, they will not be taken away. Does this mean we stay at are current level. Example, say someone has 10 pages right now. If they abandon 2, can they claim 2 others, or will they be then stuck with only 8 pages?
You mention if we currently have more than 2, they will not be taken away. Does this mean we stay at are current level. Example, say someone has 10 pages right now. If they abandon 2, can they claim 2 others, or will they be then stuck with only 8 pages?
voted helpful: buddawiggi, darknessfalls, wook, greenfreelancer, hansgonsolo, morriss003, easyeboy
No, you must request an increase so you can claim more, even if you Abandon some, the number of pages you can claim is currently displayed on your profile page.
No, if you abandon a page you will not be able to claim something new until your quota is raised.
It's fairly easy for us to look at the person requesting and know instantly if we should give them more pages, or not--as well as how many.
The tool we use takes about two seconds to process a user's request. So, if we had a 1,000 folks asking it would be very easy for us to run through those in a day.... and if half of those were from people who were good we could give them 25 or 50 new ones.
The problem with belt system is that there wasn't a strong enough correlation between belt level and ability to manage a page. Some folks who were higher belt levels were actually doing a poor job on a large number of pages. So, slowing folks down is the best idea right now.... folks doing amazing work will get a LOT more pages. Folks who are doing a poor job will have them taken away and put back into the pool for people who will do a good job.
OF course, all of this is a big experiment that is going really well so far... so, we'll see how the rest of the month and July goes. We can always change and learn... :-)
The tool we use takes about two seconds to process a user's request. So, if we had a 1,000 folks asking it would be very easy for us to run through those in a day.... and if half of those were from people who were good we could give them 25 or 50 new ones.
The problem with belt system is that there wasn't a strong enough correlation between belt level and ability to manage a page. Some folks who were higher belt levels were actually doing a poor job on a large number of pages. So, slowing folks down is the best idea right now.... folks doing amazing work will get a LOT more pages. Folks who are doing a poor job will have them taken away and put back into the pool for people who will do a good job.
OF course, all of this is a big experiment that is going really well so far... so, we'll see how the rest of the month and July goes. We can always change and learn... :-)
greenfreelancer it should still work, just ask for your limit to be raised to what you want, if you want that page back plus the other one, then try to ask for 2 more? it should work, or am I not getting something? Good luck!!!!!! :)
Umm... what if we already have over that limit? I have like 10 or something and it says I can only have 2.... now what?
They wont be taken away unless you Abandon them, you can continue to have the 10 you have, if you lose one you get one less page unless you request an increase.
Well, how much of the page do i have to update to keep the page updated? I updated part of one of my pages and the update date has not changed
The system that takes your pages away if you don't update them isn't in place yet, so for now don't worry about the update date being wrong.
Before a page is taken away, an email will always be sent to you to check the status of the page.
Thanks; I finally saw this after posting a question about it. It's probably a good idea, but perhaps a little more notice might be good--although maybe you didn't want people to try and grab their maximum before setting the limit.
voted helpful: greenfreelancer
I clicked too. Nothing happened. May be it will take time to process the request.
We should be up and running. Our developers have been hard at work and the "request increase" should work on all browsers. Although, if you are having trouble and using Internet Explorer to try Safari or Firefox. Please let me know if this works. Mahalo for your patience.
What exactly is evaluated when you request an increase? I have 4 pages right now (I think) and I WILL want more. I have only been a member since Friday, but you can see I have been EXTREMELY active. What would happen?
I'm not sure how the pages are evaluated. Will it be done by a program or by a person actually reading for content? If our request for more pages is rejected will we get a written response as to why?
When will the requirement that each page have a major update every 10 days be enforced?
It seems like this would be a natural second step. Lower the limit, then reclaim the pages beyond limit that aren't regularly updated.
Also, have you considered giving users a way to make money by updating pages that they don't manage?
It seems like this would be a natural second step. Lower the limit, then reclaim the pages beyond limit that aren't regularly updated.
Also, have you considered giving users a way to make money by updating pages that they don't manage?
Thats a fabulous opportunity.
This seems reasonable I think the belt levels in some cases granted too many pages per level. Now this is going to lead to more quality pages but is also going to lead to less pages managed per person which will go against some of the sites original goals of high manager earnings.
It would be nice to have a status indicator for the increase request. For example tells when the request has been submitted, turned down, increased, etc. That just seems logical considering all the comments floating around about it not working. Not to mention it's frustrating from a user standpoint to not have some kind of status indicator or notification.
Also, I really think that the default level should be set to at least the same number for the pages someone already manages. There is going to be some confusion when someone goes to drop page management to pickup another page only to find that it will not work. This will be especially confusing for those who have not read this discussion.
It would be nice to have a status indicator for the increase request. For example tells when the request has been submitted, turned down, increased, etc. That just seems logical considering all the comments floating around about it not working. Not to mention it's frustrating from a user standpoint to not have some kind of status indicator or notification.
Also, I really think that the default level should be set to at least the same number for the pages someone already manages. There is going to be some confusion when someone goes to drop page management to pickup another page only to find that it will not work. This will be especially confusing for those who have not read this discussion.
This is a silly idea which addresses a nonexistent problem. The real problem is that you have countless pages which could be addressed and relatively few people with very little motivation to manage them. The imagined profits only relate to a handful of pages about spam-like subjects (how to make money etc). The countless scholarly and special interest pages will never earn anything. People should be encouraged to find their own reasons for making and updating pages, and should be encouraged to try as many and as often as their fancy strikes.
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