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M$1.25 February 20, 2009 07:31 AM

Why do people seem intent on 'gaming the system'? Yes, the challenge and because they can...

But what about ethics, An answer that brings some sort of revelation would be nice for the buck.
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February 20, 2009 01:27 PM
[Note that the following in no way represents my own personal approach to life!]

There will come a time in everybody's life where the "rules" we all play by don't seem fair. You feel like the system just in general works against you, rather than for you, and it's an uphill battle just to break even. If you're particularly steadfast in this mindset, you may likely even come to new environments - like Mahalo - with that same "even if there's no evidence that it's broken, it's only a matter of time before I get screwed" mentality.

So once you've got it into your head that the system will ultimately screw you, you feel substantially less guilt about screwing the system. After all, they're the ones that made up the rules, right? "Gaming the system" typically means finding a loophole in the rules of the game that allows you to profit in unexpected ways. It's like if you failed to qualify for that $50 rebate on your HD tv at Best Buy because you didn't send in the rebate form quick enough, well hey, if the programmers left open a way to infinitely ask yourself direct questions and get a buck each time you do it, oh well, too bad for them just like it was too bad for me. Rules is rules.

I remember a great story from days gone by, during the first sorts of "online multiplayer games" when everything was text. There was a bug in this one game where you could buy equipment out of a machine for a certain price, but there was another machine somewhere in the game where you could sell it back for like 1 gold piece more. The people running the game went to bed, came back the next morning to find people with hundreds of gold pieces in their accounts because once the bug was spotted they just spent all night walking back and forth between the two machines.

There are ALWAYS people who will spot the loopholes, and exploit them. Sometimes people will just trip over them, sometimes they won't even realize it's a loophole. Sometimes it's malicious, and people know it and say "Tough" (because deep down they're expecting a fight, and having their ill-gotten gains taken away). Others don't see it as gaming the system at all, but rather just working the system optimally.
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• This answer tries to answer the question "WHY" which is what I was looking for; Instead of trying to rationalize why gaming the system may not be considered unethical. The revelations of I'll screw them before I get screwed and loopholes really caught my attention. Thanks


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February 20, 2009 01:33 PM
How come You are able to type such a long answer for every question :) Any special qualities.

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February 20, 2009 01:59 PM
I type for a living, and I type very, very fast. :) It's hard to measure because I only type at optimal speeds when I'm typing the thoughts in my head. I do lousy at those tests where somebody flashes me a document I've never seen before and says "copy this and don't make any mistakes."

I do, however, often find people sticking their head in my cubicle door just to see where the buzzing/clicking noise is coming from. :)

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February 20, 2009 10:09 PM
I guess I find that exploiting a loophole for one's own benefit unethical. The spirit of the game becomes compromised.

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February 20, 2009 10:09 AM
what is called Ethics??
proper conduct and good living.

what is proper conduct and good living?
Meaning of it changes with every person

For example
Lies-considering 2 person (one may lie) and (other may not lie) - given the same situation.

My point is maybe according to your view or my view 'gaming the system' is wrong
According to the person who is intent on 'gaming the system' may feel he is not doing anything wrong.
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February 20, 2009 07:19 PM
please do comment why it is unhelpful :)

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February 20, 2009 10:16 PM
I guess I hadn't thought of how different people would define ethical. I was still going with the old broad definition of right and wrong (do no evil). Not thinking that the definition of right and wrong are also undergoing changes in their definitions.

P.S. I don't even know why someone would mark your answer as 'unhelpful'. It is very to the point. Maybe they are trying to game the system by trying to discredit certain users???

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February 20, 2009 01:06 PM
I think the key to your question does not come in the form of an actual answer as to why but instead comes in the realization that "ethics" are not the same across the board. What might not be ethical to you and me may well seem like a normal part of life to someone else. Since the site operates on the 'world' wide web there are several different cultures around and some of these might not consider "gaming" to be unethical.

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February 20, 2009 01:13 PM
I think I gave a similar opinion above??

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February 20, 2009 10:16 PM
I guess I hadn't thought of how different people would define ethical. I was still going with the old broad definition of right and wrong (do no evil). Not thinking that the definition of right and wrong are also undergoing changes in their definitions.

Maybe this question should have been placed under the philosophy category?

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February 22, 2009 04:42 AM
I see it as people taking maximum advantage of the system while staying within the rules. In my experience, it's the "Fred" test. I was in a darts league once, and we had the need to occasionally moderate rules. We knew we had it down when it passed the "Fred" test - if Fred couldn't game the rules to his advantage, we had thought about every possible angle and the rule was likely to work as intended. After a while, I looked forward to the challenge.

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