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"Loose Threads and Gentle Needles"*, July 23-25 Mahalo Edition. Do YOU have any additions, responses, corrections, etc.?

I know it has been (another) busy week at (Lake**) Mahalo (where power users are defused, new users are confused and all of the staffers are above average abused). But, there have been at least a couple of miscellaneous things that Jason promised about a week ago that have stuck in the back of my head (aka, "loose threads", and I added the "Gentle Needles" to complete the song title and to try to add some fun.)

Feel free to add some numbered items to the list.

1) Loose Thread: July 13, Jason: "@mikebracco should share some statistic about Week One with the everyone when he has a moment." (http://www.mahalo.com/answers/is-the-new-guides-system-really-working-better-than-page-management )

2) Loose Thread: July 18, Jason: "We really need to do a better job of letting folks know what is going on with the site. Every Thursday night we do a push and we dont let you guys know half as much as we should. I've asked folks to post changed every thursday night." (http://www.mahalo.com/answers/what-changes-were-made-in-this-latest-mahalo-update-july-15-16 ) I suspect that there may not have been a weekly update last night, given that @jammons has been trying to sort out the payouts, but just in case and for future weeks.

3) KUDOS: July 23, Chris Wingate and others: http://www.mahalo.com/answers/thanks-jammons-or-the-lets-thank-jammons-for-working-diligently-on-the-revshare-and-payout-issues#a48eec3c83d51c800d770a8b05699ea649881f377e3609a59de842ca14375b3ea

4) Gentle needle: "You picked a fine time to leave us, CoreyMac."*** Have a wonderful time in Hawaii!

5) Gentle needle: Still lookin' for a Jason response to my last comment on budda's answer (http://www.mahalo.com/answers/is-mahalo-too-big-for-any-one-person-to-influence-cant-jasoncalacanis-impact-the-trajectory-of-this-cool-website-cant-others )

6) Wha'ppened?****: (http://www.mahalo.com/member/davepamn )

YOUR TURN! Respond, add, "refudiate", whatever! HAVE FUN, and have a GREAT WEEKEND!!!

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*loosely and lovingly adapted from "Silver Threads and Golden Needles", great country song (about a cheatin' husband) recorded by Wanda Jackson, Linda Ronstadt, Dusty Springfield, Dolly Parton and a number of others. (The needles and thread can't patch up her heart.)

**parentheticals are an admittedly-lame reference/homage to Garrison Keillor and his "Prairie Home Companion" - I apologize if I reached a bit too far to (try to) make the play

***lame lift of line from Kenny Rogers song, "Lucille". I seem to be mostly stuck on country-rock this a.m. I'd better crank some of the new M.I.A., quick.

****"Wha'ppen" was the name of an album by The (English) Beat in 1981. Hey, at least I got out of the 70's!
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goatead1 | 1 year, 10 months ago
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My most important response is this:

Did davepamn get blocked?!?!?!?!??!

this is pretty upsetting if it is true. Can you delete your account? or does someone have to "ban" you?

Wha'ppen is from a mighty wind as well:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SHRFhfeLgY

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doubleminaz | 1 year, 10 months ago Report

Hey, @arg. I just looked at your payment history, and it indicates it was paid (will be paid?) TODAY! Re-check your PayPal! (And, congrats on the major payout - you deserve it!!!)

Re: @dave: While he frustrated me (and many of us) sometimes, I agree that he was an asset to this community, and I hope we can learn the wha'ppened aspect.

Thanks, @steph. Fixed that one, too.

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doubleminaz | 1 year, 10 months ago Report

Not vanished. I just forgot to leave a space before closing the parentheses. I fixed 'em. Thanks for pointing that out.

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goatead1 | 1 year, 10 months ago Report

So what do you think got davepamn blocked?! I mean it is not like he was doing anything out of the ordinary for him.

My guess is he was bombarding staff members with requests. Who knows though, I hope he is taking this well.

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girlieq3000 | 1 year, 10 months ago Report

@doubleminaz I tried a few I had bookmarked of his and they were all "could not be found" (I bookmark a lot of things ;), I can see them still being on Google, google doesn't de-index that fast, I don't think anyways

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girlieq3000 | 1 year, 10 months ago Report

I believe someone has to block you, you can't delete your own account - and I think if @davepamn was planning on leaving he'd have surely made an announcement (since he announced everything else) He's been missing since Wednesday. I noticed one of his answers missing to a question I was watching and I think ones like the one @doubleminaz mentioned are just stragglers. He tagged all of his quesitons with his name and there are only a few left on the site so... who knows!

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balinesecat | 1 year, 10 months ago Report

parenthesis at the end of the "vote off the island" question is why it wasn't working. this link should work:

http://www.mahalo.com/answers/should-mahalo-have-a-vote-off-the-island-feature-would-davepamn-get-to-stay-on-the-island

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doubleminaz | 1 year, 10 months ago Report

@girlieq3000, I picked that Q for the irony value, but I think ALL of his questions are still accessible. Try Googling (davepamn site:mahalo.com); I got 119,000 hits(!) and tried a couple of others.

Oh, and yesterday, a lot of his questions (without his famous profile icon) were on the front page (in the "unanswered questions" section).

And, yeah, I agree. He would've announced it!

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doubleminaz | 1 year, 10 months ago Report

I'm pretty sure Dave didn't vote himself off of this island, and his questions are still accessible with his name attached (e.g. http://www.mahalo.com/answers/should-mahalo-have-a-vote-off-the-island-feature-would-davepamn-get-to-stay-on-the-island ).

And, small quibble: In "A Mighty Wind" (I actually have the dvd, which is amazing because we have very few), their (not real) album is actually titled "Wha' HAppened" (caps added). Thanks for reminding me of that, though. I'll have to watch it this weekend!

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argmatrixman9000 | 1 year, 10 months ago Report

I can't belive dp is gone???? everything is just so out of place for the past couple of weeks. I checked my paypal account and no money is on. I don't understand why it isn't on then for the past couple of weeks rev share was just acting so crazy. Let me say all the best to DAVEPAMN. One of the best Mahalo assets.

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chriswingate | 1 year, 10 months ago Report

Few the Question links in your Question were vanished...

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buddawiggi | 1 year, 10 months ago
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I will be truthful here and it wont all be nice.

1) I never really cared for being a page manager and how well the new guide system does in comparison to the old PM system is almost as interesting as standing the line at the DMV to me. I hope they (new guides and Mahalo) do well with it but the success or failure of the new system does not effect me personally.

2) I love that @jammons has been active in letting us know what is going on with the rev share. I hope this sort of updating continues for every single Thursday push so we do not have to guess what is going on and what has changed. The success of this will be seen in the 11th or 22nd etc. week of consecutive "Pre-deploy" updates for us.. just one week is not enough.. I think we need to know every week consistently.

3) Rev share funds my questions so I am happy to give @jammons a well deserved thank you for trying to sort this mess out and get us back on track with accurate reporting of money we earn. Big time TY Jeff.

4) Vacations are for weaklings. Get back to work Corey. ;)

5) Honestly Double I think Jason is done with that thread but you never know.

6) Dave.. he was forever asking Mahalo to conform to his idea of Mahalo and I think they had just had enough of it and all of Daves asking for things to go his way instead of making things better within the confines of the Mahalo systems we have to work with. Who knows really. I hate to see anyone go but I will not miss for one second his front page clearing question dumps with all 23+ questions he could ask all at one time. That irked me to no end.
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buddawiggi | 1 year, 10 months ago Report

Intentional? Yes. What exactly her intent is I will not know but from her Righteous Babe website the album is described as "Canon doesn’t play like a greatest hits package, but an album that’s arranged and intended to be played from beginning to end. There’s even some surprises along the way – a handful of re-imaginings of Ani classics" (1)

I believe "single peaceful shot (her canon) from a cannon re-imagery" is the key here.

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doubleminaz | 1 year, 10 months ago Report

Thanks, budda. Re: #1, I AM curious because it effects how successful/un Mahalo will be, which does effect all of us who have put time and effort into this community. I was simply pointing out that Jason suggested we'll see some stats, and we haven't seen 'em yet.

Re: Ani. Do you think it was intentional to title her retrospective album "Canon" and to put a "cannon" on the cover? (I love word play.)

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doubleminaz | 1 year, 10 months ago Report

Yep, I can see why you feel that way. Which is why I went the extra step to try to explain my choice. I thought that Goatead seized on a point which opened a floodgate of responses; you *seemed* to not understand why I wanted the loose threads addressed. If you choose not to respond to my questions in the future, I understand. I'll be saddened, but I'll understand.

Likewise, I hope you'll be able to understand the (difficult) choice I made this a.m.

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buddawiggi | 1 year, 10 months ago Report

Well there you go.
Not really a question but a statement.. again.
Is the MahaloTalk forum not satisfying the need to vent any longer? ;)

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doubleminaz | 1 year, 10 months ago Report

Budda, with this thread I was really trying to point out that there were a couple of reports that Jason had promoted (#1 and #2) that we had (have) not yet seen. Whether each of us considers #1 important or not isn't really the main point - and I don't really consider Jeff's valuable communications about the rev share efforts to meet #2 ('though there may not have been a Thur night rollout because of them).

BTW, my profile alerts are working, though I got about 9 messages that this Q was about to expire. (I only needed one. I think. ;-))

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buddawiggi | 1 year, 10 months ago Report

I'm still at a loss... sure seems like venting to me but hey if you say so.

I almost never question who gets a best answer in any thread decided by the asker and @goatead is one of the best new members Mahalo has seen in a long time, his answers are intelligent and his participation is great, but in this case I can only see you were looking for something else than best answer as in a purely objective light the answer selected as best here is barely noticeable, uses additional single line and still unanswered questions as content and offers absolutely no real information or opinion. It is pretty uninspiring to me in thinking about offering my opinions on topics you might bring up in the future.

but hey, it was your question.

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doubleminaz | 1 year, 10 months ago Report

Not "venting", budda buddy, "pointing out". Other than sending DQ's (which too often go unanswered), this IS the appropriate venue for that. (MA has frequently been the place to initiate discussions, in addition to asking questions.) I invited responses, etc, and I appreciated yours.

And, for the record, when I have posted my opinions on Mahalo Answers, it has ALWAYS been (1) to seek others' opinions, (2) to elicit honest responses from specific people AND others who might have an interest, and (3) to persuade. I hope that I have always managed to keep venting/temper tantrums out of my Mahalo participation (as well as my participation elsewhere), and I sincerely apologize if I have occasionally failed at that.

I will confess that I have been disappointed with the actions last month that destroyed the community-of-contributors-revenue-sharing community and largely replaced it with a small-band-of-piece-workers website. I think the actions were poorly planned, poorly executed and poorly communicated. I have expressed my concerns and how I think that things might be improved. And, with this thread, I attempted to hold Mahalo accountable for just a couple of the statements/promises which the founder-CEO-visionary publicly made in an effort to satisfy some of the disappointed community members (including you and me) and to keep us hangin' on. Because, I don't think that Mahalo really wants to set us free and get out of our lives.*

BTW, I listened to a good part of "Canon" (albeit interrupted by phone calls and leaving the office) - I was pretty impressed. I hadn't really listened to her before. Thanks.

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* reached a bit to shoehorn this reference, the #1 hit for the Supremes (and Kim Wilde), "You Keep Me Hangin' On" http://www.songfacts.com/detail.php?id=4063

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doubleminaz | 1 year, 10 months ago Report

Wow, I bet that's the first time either of us has been compared to Dave! And, we ARE both reasoning past each other.

An NBA? I truly never considered that - I asked for opinions, etc, and I don't think I've ever given an NBA. Maybe this should have been the first. I don't think so, but hey, I'm willing to say that I might be wrong.

So, in that spirit, please accept my apology, budda.

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buddawiggi | 1 year, 10 months ago Report

Are your profile alerts working?

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buddawiggi | 1 year, 10 months ago Report

It is not that I didn't understand it was that I did not feel any more "addressing" would be more helpful and as far as the point spurring a flurry of responses.. "What happened to @davepamn?" .. I think you would know Mahalo is not going to address that in public.

I feel a no best answer would have been best here as the two points of contention I seemed to lack an understanding of still have not been addressed by any of the answers here.. I mean one could say I touched upon them but not to your liking and that is understandable.. but no other answer or comment even mentioned them.

"1) Loose Thread: July 13, Jason: "@mikebracco should share some statistic about Week One with the everyone when he has a moment." (http://www.mahalo.com/answers/is-the-new-guides-system-really-working-better-than-page-management )

2) Loose Thread: July 18, Jason: "We really need to do a better job of letting folks know what is going on with the site. Every Thursday night we do a push and we dont let you guys know half as much as we should. I've asked folks to post changed every thursday night." (http://www.mahalo.com/answers/what-changes-were-made-in-this-latest-mahalo-update-july-15-16 ) I suspect that there may not have been a weekly update last night, given that @jammons has been trying to sort out the payouts, but just in case and for future weeks. "

Not one.. I just double checked. That entire "flurry of comments" is all about @davepamn and every one of those who commented there know Mahalo is not going to address the removal of a member in public. "It was a TOS violation" would be the only public statement Mahalo would make, if any.

"b. Mahalo may terminate your Mahalo Account and access to or use of the Services for any reason or no reason, with or without notice, at any time."
http://www.mahalo.com/terms-of-service

Oddly enough I feel right now like I am discussing this with @davepamn because with him no matter how well I put together any sort of answer to any of his questions he would never award me the BA because I was always disagreeing with him.. he really did not like me for that.

As for answering your questions.. I answer without regard to who asked the question nearly any question I see that interests me and the only thing that changes is the amount of effort I put into the answer based upon who asked it..if I know that my answer will not be selected or voted as best because it is in opposition to or in disagreement with the asker I will put forth less effort accordingly.

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rdmcurator | 1 year, 10 months ago
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Loved all the refs, love The English Beat (esp. that special beat service album), contrary to many, love @davepamn.

Summer lovin', having a blast.
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rdmcurator | 1 year, 10 months ago Report

OOOOOhhhhh touche with the "I Confess"!!! +1

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doubleminaz | 1 year, 10 months ago Report

GREAT, rdm! And, I'll see your grease, and raise you (above these) BADLANDS!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RqZ8IjsqhE&feature=related

(OK, now I'm out of the country-rock groove! BTW, I Confess that the "Save It For Later" reference was caught and savored.)

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