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3 years, 4 months ago

Looking to replace my Treo 650. Palm, Blackberry, or Windows Mobile? I'm on ATT.

I might consider an iPhone, but I do prefer a QWERTY keys keyboard.

More information: My 2 year contract has been up for a year or so.
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tko | 3 years, 4 months ago
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I'm gonna to sound biased (full disclosure: I have an iPhone), but on AT&T I seriously suggest you consider it.

Are internet and email gonna be a big part of what you do? The browsing experience of this thing is second to none. I mention e-mail because if you want to see richly-formatted e-mails in all their glory too, iPhone is the way to go.

Most issues with the phone (for you) might come down to the keyboard. I'd agree with online advice that it takes a week to get used to it. It's significantly less-fiddly in landscape mode. Right now I can do typing in e-mails, Yahoo/MSN (Beejive IM), Twitter, and Safari in landscape mode, and it rocks. I use the default portrait mode a lot though. It's error correction fixes many errors my big thumbs make.

Blackberry's tactile keyboard has advantages for typing without having to look at the screen. If your company uses RIMs services (push mail etc), Blackberry could be attractive. IMHO the Bold looks very nice.

Windows Mobile? Is there WM-specific functionality you might need? The browser is limited. Their *new* browser will be IE6-based when the rest of the worlds desktops are IE7 (which renders quite differently.) And MS releases WM to the handset manufacturers who then tweak it and release on their handsets, you're always behind the curve. Can they keep up with Apple and RIM this way?

As for the UI, IMHO that needs fixing. Basing it on Windows in the first place was a bad idea. These aren't mouse-driven devices. Handset makers try to hide it under their own custom UI. What does that tell you? Other than that I find WM to be okay. Before Apple and RIM it was good. Now it's just mediocre.

I like what Palm used to be, but I can't see them being a major player any more. Don't know if they can survive in the mobile market today. I'd recommend against Palm.

Again I find myself veering towards iPhone. An IT friend of mine got one
recently - says he now understands my enthusiasm: "It's a real game-changer." The way it sync's data with your PC/Mac without hassle. My exchange e-mail and calendar is pushed to me, as are my two Yahoo email accounts (my address book sync'd with one of them.) Bookmarks are sync'd with Safari (I only use Safari for this.) ..If you have an iPod, or a Nintendo GB/DS, you just have to go iPhone. That's two less gadgets in your pocket. (So much quality software on the Apps Store now. Check out Google Earth and Edge.)

Okay, I'll stop rambling now. I don't want to harp on about it too much, since it sounds like you'd prefer to go for one of the other phones. If you do, I'd say Blackberry. You know what I really want you to get tho. Give in to the dark side Luke. :)
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tko | 3 years, 4 months ago Report

I know there's an EverNote application for the iPhone which, if you're using Evernote on your desktop, you will be able to use to sync your notes, I believe. (I don't actually own Evernote, nor have I used it ..but I have heard Leo Laporte (of the TWiT network and podcasts) saying he uses it, which is pretty good in my book.)

I find it funny that, way back when this question was asked, I pretty much counted Palm as down and out. ..which they really seemed to be. But all the while they'd managed to get a good number of ex-apple engineers together (and probably other talented people too), came up with a product that looks like quite a nice multi-touch device with tactile keyboard, and (in true apple style) have kept it completely secret until shortly before launch.

Bravo Palm. Well played. ..It only remains to be seen just how good the Palm Pre might be. Maybe something to finally rival the iPhone ..except they are on Sprint, or Verizon. I forget. Not the network you were after, anyway.

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tko | 3 years, 4 months ago Report

Here in New Zealand it's dead-easy if you're not changing cellphone providers. Since you say you're already with AT&T over there that should make things a lot easier for you. From what I've read it's very similar to how it used to be with the pre-3g phones: 2 year contract and about $200 for the phone. (I was listening to lots and lots of podcasts when the 3g unit hit the shelves, so picked up a lot about the contract details over there.)

So the main point of interest since the initial lauch is the handset is subsidised, so it's much much cheaper. :) They prefer to activate the phone in the store now too ..I think that's more a measure designed to stop 30% of them being shipped off to China.

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mccallister | 3 years, 4 months ago Report

I need a phone that will run the Evernote application.

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mccallister | 3 years, 4 months ago Report

Have the requirements for getting an iPhone changed since it's launch?

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chn-cs-htg | 3 years, 4 months ago
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DO consider Iphone. I have it, and my only complain about it is not actually about the phone, but about ATT network. Iphone DOES hav a QWERTY keyboard, just using touch screen instead of physical keys, (which you will find very useful when you find your screen size to be twice as big as everyone else's when reading emails, watching youtube or picking music).

There are many applications that provide features that make the keyboard more "real", such as a quick light viberation for every key you type in.

The key difference between iphone and everything else is the apps. When you buy a Palm, you are stuck with it and all its functionalities, for better or worse; with an iphone there is an unlimited amount of functionalities as hundreds of new applications are being added each month. Moreover, most of them are FREE of charge.
I'd say at least go into an ATT store, pick up an iphone and play with it and type a bit, get a feeling for how it feels and see if you like it. Note: it has intellegent auto-correct feature, so if you typed "jrlli" instead of "hello", it would STILL understand you and auto-correct it to hello. And if you meant to type the letter t, but hit y instead (you'd know right away since the key you are pressing is enlarged on the screen), simply don't let go and slide to the left a bit to have your finger on T before removing it. Works like a charm. I can type on that keyboard much faster than any other two-thumb devices.

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akmprvn | 1 year, 5 months ago
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The Blackberry Torch has a full slide out keyboard and touch screen, but if you don't want a touch screen the 8900 curve (Javelin), Bold 9000,9700 and Curge 3G are the way to go . The HP iPAQ Glisten is looks similar to a Blackberry in terms of the phone design with the screen and keyboard. This one allows you to print documents from your phone via wireless connectivity and has a touch screen(Windows Phone). The LG Quantum is a slider/touch screen Windows 7 OS. The HTC Tilt2 has only a touch screen and has the Windows 6.5 Professional OS. The HTC Surround has full intergration of Windows, XBox Live, Zune and Bing search, pull out/built in speakers and built in camera. Then there's the Samsung Focus with Windows 7, touch screen only and also integrated with XBox Live, Bing Search and Zune. iPhones are good, but the one big thing you also want to consider is that iPhones are a hot commodity and unfortunately iPhones are not covered under the phone insurance as most other smart phones are.

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cmealerjr | 3 years, 4 months ago
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I personally like the ATT Tilt made by HTC full qwerty keyboard, touch screen, bluetooth, wifi, and data capable. It uses windows mobile so it syncs easily.

Here's the link to the refurbished version: http://tinyurl.com/9oxuqn

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robbrown | 3 years, 4 months ago
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For most users, the answer comes down to how you use your mobile device.

If you use it for entertainment:

iPhone

If you use it for business or a lot of email / sms:

Blackberry

There are some truly outstanding fun applications for the iPhone let alone the movie / music integration with iTunes. However, if you find yourself (like me) using the device for as much email or sms as you do voice, deeply consider the hard keys of the blackberry.

I was looking for a new phone a few months ago and did my homework (in a big way). I tried out several phones for a month each and decided on a Blackberry. I also bought a psp for my time spent on planes for the games and movies. This combo is absolutely perfect in my mind and I couldn't ask for anything more.

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chaltrye | 3 years, 4 months ago
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Have you checked out the Treo Pro? Probably the best Treo (winmo) handset yet. That's the route I'm going when they release the CDMA version on Sprint (later this month).

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