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ilaksh ilaksh
 
January 01, 2009 02:05 AM

What types of protests, strikes or legal actions would force the state of California to decide on a budget?

I ask because I think such actions are now warranted as reportedly the state loses as much as $1.7 million per day of delay and if it remains unresolved vital services will halt.
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 January 01, 2009 02:17 AM
The London Garbage Strike about 30 years ago brought smelly situations into the public eye pretty quickly. Or into the public nose.

Seems this should work even better in a warmer to hot climate!
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reiver reiver
 
January 01, 2009 01:55 PM
If you mean "force" in the literal sense of word (and not some metaphor), then legally you cannot force the government The definition of government (using common language) is that it is the only one that may force others. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monopoly_on_the_legitimate_use_of_physical_force

Protests can be and often are ignored... or even if the media or government gives "acknowledgment" of the protest or the issues, it often is just lip service, and does not change or effect things in a way that matters. (And they can also often make you a target.)

Regarding strikes, the government can pass legislation to decree that strikers must go back to work (or they will be breaking the law). So they can be made ineffectual.

You might not like this answer, but there is no legal way you can really force the government to do anything.

Now, you might be able to exert some kind of "pressure" or some kind of persuasion to get what you want. But that's not "force" or course, and can be ignored.

For example, some people bribe... errrr... "lobby" people in power to get what they want. Not sure if that's an option for you. (And yeah, and I know, that's disgusting. But it is what it is. Also, "lobbying" might not be effectual in this case.)

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ilaksh ilaksh
 
January 01, 2009 11:41 PM
well, i did put it in the legal section. so that is a good legal answer.
but let's say I chose another word instead of 'force'. any word you like. the idea is I want something that would cause the state to make a decision on a budget so that we can move forward and deal with reality.

do you have any ideas as to what might be an effective way to do that?

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reiver reiver
 
January 02, 2009 07:13 AM
Your other option is persuasion.

But there's not really a simple answer for how to do this kind of persuasion. If you have money and know the right people, then you may be able to persuade "enough" of the "right people" to get what you want.

But if you looking for something like a HOWTO or a series of steps to do what you want to do, I don't think it's that simple.

To put it plain language, you often have to either bribe people or "threaten" to take away something to get things to happen.

Often people will hire people who do this kind of thing for a living. But these people aren't cheap. These people are sometimes called: professional lobbyists.

So... you could hire a professional lobbyists. (Not sure if that's an option for you though, given the costs involved.)

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ilaksh ilaksh
 
January 03, 2009 04:25 AM
I don't have any money or resources really. It just seems like California is frozen by its denial of reality and the denial is making things even worse than they are. Thanks for your thoughts.

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