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M$5
March 27, 2009 12:49 AM
Was Obama right to laugh at the idea of Legalizing Marijuana?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-otr1qv4q_4
A couple things come mind right away.
1. The money you would save from not having to lock up harmless users.
2. The money you would save from not having to hunt down traffickers
3. The money you could potentially earn from monetizing one of the largest cash crops in the country.
4. How about all the jobs created in the public sector?.. growers, regulators, distributors.
5. Jobs created in the private sector?...Smoke bars, smoking devices, etc...
6. The culture might change, I'm kinda sick of manufactured Disney boy bands and divas turning generations of kids into sissy's.
So should this really be dismissed the issue, or could he have used this as a platform to bring up the positives of decriminalizing the plant.. Which is something he's brought up in the past.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQr9ezr8UeA
A couple things come mind right away.
1. The money you would save from not having to lock up harmless users.
2. The money you would save from not having to hunt down traffickers
3. The money you could potentially earn from monetizing one of the largest cash crops in the country.
4. How about all the jobs created in the public sector?.. growers, regulators, distributors.
5. Jobs created in the private sector?...Smoke bars, smoking devices, etc...
6. The culture might change, I'm kinda sick of manufactured Disney boy bands and divas turning generations of kids into sissy's.
So should this really be dismissed the issue, or could he have used this as a platform to bring up the positives of decriminalizing the plant.. Which is something he's brought up in the past.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQr9ezr8UeA
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| March 27, 2009 03:04 AM |
He does seem in favor of revising the laws. Personally I am amazed at how much he and congress have done in so short a time. That massive conservation bill that just passed would have been a major multi-year achievement in most administrations. Maybe we can wait until the second hundred days for some action on this issue?
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March 27, 2009 01:39 AM
I honestly don't think it will help the economy that much but, on the other hand I do not see a reason for our country to not legalize it. I say this as a person who has never done drugs in his entire 27 years of life except alcohol. I say this though cause I see no reason why substances such as Viagra and Enzyte can be legal yet something that is inherently natural and can have some rules placed on it just like the consumption of alcohol should be considered illegal. With that in mind I understand the standpoint of President Obama in his statement. Economy wise the substance cant do anything to help but it is a subject that he has to tread very carefully.
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March 27, 2009 01:42 AM
He wasn't laughing at the concept of legalising marijuana per se. He was maybe laughing at two things, a) the idea that that could have any significant impact on the economy, and b) the fact so many online users would vote for that question as the one they want to ask the President.
And yes, in my book, both of those things are pretty funny.
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andrew m
March 27, 2009 02:06 AM
Thanks for the thoughtful answer. This issue is more complicated than it's often given credit for.
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March 27, 2009 02:20 AM
I'm okay with him laughing about it. I don't think he has the right answer at this time, but I'm not sure what the relationship to "growing" our economy is. He might be picking words carefully. We'll see. Casual laughter is a lot different that heated, angry claims about marijuana being the devil incarnate. I'll wait to see what happens next.
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March 27, 2009 02:36 AM
He some ways, yes he should laugh at it. Given the many challenges facing this administration I hope he does not add "shutting down the war on drugs" to the agenda. Next term, I hope he addresses the second failed attempt a prohibition because the costs are devastating.
Also, I'm interested to see the effects of open voting on the rankings of answers for this question.
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March 27, 2009 05:52 AM
I completely agree that it's something that should be done, but now probably isn't the right time to do so. I don't think he was explicitly laughing at the issue - it may have been a joke about pot being a way to "grow" the economy. Also,Obama is generally a pretty jovial guy - he smiles and jokes a lot. On a 60 Minutes interview with Jim Kroft the other night, Kroft gave Obama a hard time about laughing while talking about the economic crisis. Just goes to show that Obama makes jokes even about issues he feels are serious and warrant attention.
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http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0309/20339.html
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March 27, 2009 12:21 PM
I was upset that he laughed about this question, in fact I turned off the meeting after that. There are many of us who voted for it that are not naive "young people" wanting to make it easier to get high. There has been so much money wasted on the failed War on Drugs and so many lives ruined by draconian sentencing rules for marijuana that this is a serious issue. That said, at least he found it necessary to say something about the issue. Hopefully, after it continues to rank highly in these online votes, eventually he will see the need to seriously address it.
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March 27, 2009 04:39 PM
I have to agree that this is a serious issue for the fallout surrounding the trafficking of drugs. Politicians, cops and families are being murdered in Mexico and America over the drug trade, and it's a proven fact that if you decriminalize and regulate a drug those issue go away (see alcohol).
I think Obama was laughing at the fact that it was the #1 voted issue and i think he is actually warming folks up to the issue with his laughing about it. I think he wants folks to get used to the discussion and take the emotion out of it. If he can defuse the "drugs kill people" meme and move the conversation to "marijuana is less harmful than cigarettes and alcohol, and those things pay for our schools and roads," we're going to move past this issue like other countries have.
... i guess I'm an optimist. :-)
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I think Obama was laughing at the fact that it was the #1 voted issue and i think he is actually warming folks up to the issue with his laughing about it. I think he wants folks to get used to the discussion and take the emotion out of it. If he can defuse the "drugs kill people" meme and move the conversation to "marijuana is less harmful than cigarettes and alcohol, and those things pay for our schools and roads," we're going to move past this issue like other countries have.
... i guess I'm an optimist. :-)
April 01, 2009 05:02 AM
OH I love how our tax dollars pay for police officers, dea officers and all the fighters of this war THEN when they "catch" someone, more of our tax dollars pay for the court time, judges, court appointed lawyers and temporary incarceration. If a conviction happens, guess what? More of our tax dollars pay prisons to feed, clothe and educate these folks. Even more tax dollars pay for medical and dental care for them plus the prison upkeep, the wardens, officers.....
We spend so much to fight marijuana but allow people to load up on all the alcohol they can afford.
Frankly, it's easier to deal with a "stoner" than a "drunk".....they just want to eat some good snacks, watch Star Trek and laugh.
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We spend so much to fight marijuana but allow people to load up on all the alcohol they can afford.
Frankly, it's easier to deal with a "stoner" than a "drunk".....they just want to eat some good snacks, watch Star Trek and laugh.
March 27, 2009 09:32 PM
The President is (once again) trying to find a middle ground: not legalization, but "rethinking" how we do things. We know that President Obama is a fan of President Lincoln, and borrowed a page from Lincoln's playbook, by placing his rivals in his Cabinet (Seward at State is clearly analogous to Hillary Clinton at State). Now he needs to read up on FDR, and borrow FDR's ending of Alcohol Prohibition. The "War on Drugs" is lost: drugs are everywhere, plentiful, cheap and potent, *today*. If all drugs are legalized and taxed, the availability will remain the same, but the black-market premium pricing will disappear, and so will the drug cartels. In California, Governor Schwartezegger needs extra billions to close a huge state budget gap. That gap could be immediately fixed if all drugs were legalized, taxed, and treated as medical problems.
And of course, keep the DUI laws as they are, .. impaired driving under the influence of drugs is currently illegal in California and most states and should stay that way. No one is saying that we want dangerous behavior, however induced to flourish, but the basic commerce-in and possession of drugs should be legalized now, to create new revenues for governments everywhere.
The main problem, is that the Drug War is the means by which the prisons are kept full of mostly minority drug offenders. The government needs to get serious with the prison guard unions and other groups interested in maintaining this war-on-drugs-fed empire and either give them a different trough to feed at not involving drugs, or like AIG, tell them that they are now on a diet and will not use the Drug War to foment prison construction and to inflate police budgets.
In addition, corruption in government fueled by drug organizations would end, resulting in more faith in the integrity of government generally.
The drug war disproportionally hits minorities and the poor. A housewife can legally get perscription Xanax, and never be arrested, ... but a resident of a depressed neighborhood engaged in dealing or using drugs is dealt with harshly by our "justice" system ... this is systemic discrimination and racism at its insidious worst.
Finally, ending the Drug War would end our society-wide hypocrisy. President Clinton's "I never inhaled," lie was allowed through, because a huge proportion of our baby-boomer generation had in-fact experimented with drugs. If we actually disqualified all baby boomers from holding public office for such experimentation, that whole generation would find itself suddenly excluded from their government jobs for no good reason, since their experimentation has no bearing on their current job performance (maybe with the exception of former President G.W. Bush, who clearly suffered brain damage from decades of excessive substance abuse!!)
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