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May 15, 2009 02:57 AM
Can Obama really shut down the Internet?
The Cybersecurity Act of 2009 gives the president the ability to “declare a cybersecurity emergency” and shut down or limit Internet traffic in any “critical” information network “in the interest of national security.” The bill does not define a critical information network or a cybersecurity emergency. That definition would be left to the president.
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| May 15, 2009 04:00 AM |
The Bill is said to be a work in progress( unless i missed something nothing has been approved as of yet)
The Bill needs major work, but if we can pass something like the Patriot Act why not just finish passing this? (sarcasm) With the amount of power the executive branch has been obtaining in the past 8years we certaintly dont need it obtaining anymore. Changes are needed to the bill, maybe have Congress declare what is a Cyber Emergency.
Attach is the source for the bill and if someone is able to make more sence of it be my guess at this point all i can say is that we do need to have cybersecurity, but i would like the definition of cybersecurity emergency!
Last whenever I hear of bill's like these it makes me think of a quote by Thomas Jefferson goes something like this:
-The man who would choose security over freedom deserves neither
Copy of BIll-http://edge.networkworld.com/graphics/2009/0402%20Rockefeller%20cybersecurity%20bill.pdf
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http://edge.networkworld.com/graphics/2009/0402%20Rockefeller%20cybersecuri...
http://tblog.in/obama-the-invincible-bill-allows-him-power-to-shut-down-int...
http://www.networkworld.com/news/2009/040209-obama-cybersecurity-bill.html
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May 15, 2009 04:23 AM
He can most likely limit the internet in certain areas, but the President of the United States can't completely shut it off. I think it's kind of a bad move on their part though, why shut it off? We've been doing fine so far. He's not the king of the world.
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May 15, 2009 05:07 AM
The question is being asked, and it is an important one that we all need to pay attention to. Can Obama shut down the internet? The answer will not come as a surprise to most of us. The only ones surprised may be the adoring, leg tingling, messiah worshipers but they will be in denial until it is too late. With conservative bloggers, talks shows, and the like being considered “terrorists,” this is not too far fetched. In fact, it is getting closer to becoming reality by the moment. Here is what I found thanks to Hot Air Blog.
When Mother Jones and Jules Crittenden agree, isn’t that a sign of the apocalypse? Both take a hard look at the Cybersecurity Act of 2009, sponsored by Jay Rockefeller (D-WV), Bill Nelson (D-FL), and Olympia Snowe (R-ME). The bill addresses the need to protect vital networks from cyber attack, but it gives a lot of power to the executive branch — perhaps too much power. Mother Jones reports:
The Cybersecurity Act of 2009 (PDF) gives the president the ability to “declare a cybersecurity emergency” and shut down or limit Internet traffic in any “critical” information network “in the interest of national security.” The bill does not define a critical information network or a cybersecurity emergency. That definition would be left to the president.
The bill does not only add to the power of the president. It also grants the Secretary of Commerce “access to all relevant data concerning critical networks without regard to any provision of law, regulation, rule, or policy restricting such access.” This means he or she can monitor or access any data on private or public networks without regard to privacy laws.
Jules adds:
You know, if it was the Bush administration, I’d be more inclined to trust them. They sought extraordinary wartime powers, and used them to prosecute the war on terror. Never abused them, though, despite all the squawking.
Jules wonders when the Leftosphere will erupt in outrage. Mother Jones isn’t a bad start, though.
Here are the sections raising eyebrows:
SEC. 14. PUBLIC–PRIVATE CLEARINGHOUSE.
(a) DESIGNATION.—The Department of Commerce shall serve as the clearinghouse of cybersecurity threat and vulnerability information to Federal government and private sector owned critical infrastructure information systems and networks.
(b) FUNCTIONS.—The Secretary of Commerce—
(1) shall have access to all relevant data concerning such networks without regard to any provision of law, regulation, rule, or policy restricting such access; …
SEC. 18. CYBERSECURITY RESPONSIBILITIES AND AUTHORITY.
The President— …
(2) may declare a cybersecurity emergency and order the limitation or shutdown of Internet traffic to and from any compromised Federal government or United States critical infrastructure information system or network; …
The second provision is something less than advertised, I believe. It gives the President the authority to disconnect federal networks from the Internet in the case of cyberattack. That doesn’t seem like an outrageous provision to me; it sounds like a sensible option to protect vital government systems. In fact, I’d be surprised if that power doesn’t already exist within the various federal agencies. This would allow the President to make a blanket order to take networks off line.
That doesn’t make it completely benign, either. That power could get abused to keep people from accessing public information. However, the provision on its own does not equate to “shutting down the Internet”, at least not how I read it.
Section 14 may be a bigger problem. It essentially revokes all privacy safeguards on Internet use for allall times. networks. The Fourth Amendment would go straight out the window with the explicit inclusion of “private sector owned critical infrastructure information systems and networks.” While Section 18 limits jurisdiction to federal networks, Section 14 allows the government to go after private networks without search warrants. The section also doesn’t limit the jurisdiction to acute attacks, either. That jurisdiction exists at
The big problem isn’t that Obama might shut down the Internet. It’s that the bill essentially repeals the Fourth Amendment.
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May 15, 2009 02:28 PM
Technically Obama could not shut the Internet off...haha good luck with that. However the sad news is he can surely limit it. Though this process would require a ton of work, a ton of dollars and the chance at being killed...US Government definition...not going to happen.
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May 16, 2009 01:06 AM
He could not * shut it off * he could limit access to it to all his American power.. Some countries and places allready have limits on the internet.. yet other places its free and un-attended.
Reality only the USA would get cut off, he cant stop it completly without the rest of the world declaring it an act of war or terrorism =P
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