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M$1 February 11, 2009 02:44 AM

Has Fox News lost all credibility? Does anyone still consider them a reputable source for news?

Last night, Jon Stewart did a segment on the hypocrisy of Bill O'Reilly.
http://www.hulu.com/watch/57054/the-daily-show-with-jon-stewart-bill-oreillys-right-to-privacy

For years there has been accusations that the channel is baised and slanted.
2001: http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1072
2004: http://media.www.saintanselmcrier.com/media/storage/paper672/news/2004/01/30/News/Fox-News.Balanced.Or.Biased-593272.shtml

2008:
http://www.hulu.com/watch/54305/the-daily-show-with-jon-stewart-fox-news-fear-imbalance#s-p1-st-i1

Now a producer has been arrested for child pornography. Even worse, it turns out he had been arrested in 1999 for distributing child pornography.
http://gawker.com/5150980/how-the-fox-news-producer-got-busted-for-child-porn?skyline=true&s;=x

So, do you think Fox News has lost all credibility as a source for news? Has it become more of a joke? Anyone care to defend it?
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February 11, 2009 04:49 AM
Unfortunately, unlike the enforcement, legal or medical professions which can police their own, and enforce oaths of integrity and conduct (and even within these groups, corruption still waxes and wanes), there are no formalized rules of conduct or ethics by which journalism is bound, nor any way to enforce ethical behavior. It is not against the law to lie to the public, nor to mislead or influence them in an immoral fashion, especially when the audience is a willing participant/victim. Their "credibility" as with any mass media source, is measured by the strength of its audience and their willingness to enforce their view of the world on everyone else. If there is one thing that media has learned, people don't like being told things they don't want to hear, especially in non-prosperous times. Fox News knows what is "credible" to their audience, and they aim for it, just like any smart, for-profit business should. CNN does it. Jon Stewart does it.

The only way any media source could be accurately judged in terms of credibility would be if a completely independent, totally impartial entity existed to do so. No such thing could be created by any organization run by humans, unfortunately. At best, we would have paper-thin organizations whose own credibility can easily be torn apart by better funded and better organized entities unfettered by commitments to impartiality or greater good.

We are imperfect creatures, and we create imperfect things.
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February 11, 2009 02:59 AM
Jon Stewart is an entertainer and should not be considered authoritative on any matter. Having said that, all media is biased and none should be considered credible on their own. One should consider all sources and obtain first hand information when evaluating an issue. Media outlets offer second and third person accounts of events even when broadcasting video or audio of a portion of an event or set of statements.

My opinion is that Fox News has lost no more credibility than any other media outlet has - they have all stayed the same with me.

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February 11, 2009 03:27 AM
The O'Reilly Factor, unless this has changed, is the most watched cable news shows in the U.S. So, to answer the second part of your question, yes.

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February 11, 2009 03:38 AM
The O'Reilly Factor is a pundit show, not a news broadcast.

Firstly, you answer only half the question.
Secondly, you provide no source for the one claim you make.
Thirdly, the answer you give is irrelevant anyway because it says nothing of Fox News, which is what the original question was about.

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February 11, 2009 03:52 AM
I wasn't really looking for a tip, I was just pointing something out. But, to respond to your criticisms...

Firstly, there is no right or wrong answer on whether or not they've lost credibility, as it will differ depending on who you ask, so I just didn't answer that.
Secondly, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_O%27reilly_Factor Check the second paragraph of the Wikipedia entry. There's three links there. (and yes, it's a cable news show).
Thirdly, how does the most watched cable news show not have to do with the network it is broadcast on? Fox News and Bill O'Reilly are practically synonymous.

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February 11, 2009 04:38 AM
They don't have much credibility with me, but it is clear that they have a lot of credibility with millions of Americans. I suspect that their ratings will grow now that the Democrats are in power, just as MSMBC's ratings grew the longer the Republicans were in power. FOX shills for the Reps and MSMBC shills for the Dems. If I want mostly unbiased news, I watch CNN. It is interesting that on election day, they were the most watched cable news channel. When something vitally important is happening now, most people change the channel to CNN.

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February 11, 2009 05:21 AM
Loaded question. I'm always floored by the number of people on this bandwagon. Fox may be right-slanted, but their NEWS COVERAGE is the same slap-together hard-line bull that every other new source pumps out. They all draw from the same well, they all report the same garbage, and they all do a half-assed job of it. I know this because I was a journalism student and because I've spent time comparing Fox to other sources. I even get Fox's and MSNBC's email headlines and news stories to see how they compare. Know what's interesting? They're almost exactly the same.

Fox's bias is in its ANALYSIS, which is NOT news. The opinions of Bill O'Reilly, hypocritic as they may be (I have a lot of respect for Stewart, but no matter how you cut it, the man is a comedian searching for comedy), are still just opinions. They are not news. Whatever O'Reilly says comes through the O'Reilly filter. You watch to hear what O'Reilly thinks. That's why his name is on the show.

Fox's actual news coverage, the headlines and news stories, are more often pulled from the general pool of stories in which all the anchors are standing around with all the writers from the newspapers and all the AP reporters, waiting for the "story" at whatever press conference, taking the same notes and pretending like they're doing their jobs. The problem with today's journalism isn't Fox News' bias, its this 24-hour instant gratification no-intelligence reporting that grabs the surface comments and hurries home. They ALL do that. Just make sure we get the dirt on Joe the Plumber...

Fox is no better or worse than any other organization. They choose to be up front about how they feel about the news, which is sort of nice, in a way. But side-by-side, this doesn't color their coverage any more than anyone else's.

Also, what does one producer's child porn conviction have to do with reporting the news? Did anyone notice an abundance of pro-child porn news on Fox?

Like I said before: loaded question.

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February 12, 2009 03:25 PM
So does that mean that any news organization that has made a bad hire -- like someone who fabricates or plagiarizes stories -- is an unreliable organization with poor practices, whose other work can't be trusted? I believe the New York Times would be on that list.

And this guy wasn't even making up the news...

I just feel like you standards don't apply evenly to everyone, Darcy.

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February 11, 2009 05:24 AM
Since it's not possible to lose something you never had to begin with, I don't think Fox News has lost any credibility.

As for the producer getting busted for child porn, I find it's pretty unreasonable to hold an entire company responsible for the non-work related actions of a single employee. Sure, the guy's a foul excuse for a human being, but there are countless other things to criticize NewsCorp for, such as the bias and hypocrisy shown in the links that were initially provided.

Trying to pin this producer to Fox News as some sort of indication of what the rest of the company is like is pretty sleazy in and of itself and is really just an exercise in schadenfreude.

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February 11, 2009 05:35 AM
Guilt by associations is not any reason to paint a news organization as not credible, other wise ABC, NBC, CNN, MSN and all the rest would not be credible. Many of there workers have been arrested for crimes.
How many producers are at Fox, Do you know. On bad apple dose not mean the entire organization is bad.
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February 11, 2009 01:50 PM
This question and the answers crack me up. Asking if a news show has credibility but using a comedy show hilighting a pundit show does not really address the "News" component of the question.

It's basically all shlock but FOX has as much credibility in the news department as any of them.

My younger brother was getting really depressed a couple of years ago and decided to see what would happen if he stopped watching the news for one month. After a month he found that he was no longer stressed out an depressed. He still got his news online and in print so he wasn't a total ostrich but he felt so much better that he rarely watches the news anymore.

Not a bad idea.

I go to MegasimpleNews.com now to watch my news videos - I can pick out the clips I want to see and I don't have to wait to hear what the teleprompter readers have to say about any of the issues and I don't have to sit through all the commercials. It's great.
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February 11, 2009 02:02 PM
I trust Fox News more than any other news site for balanced news. There are stories on Fox News that I never find on other sites when I look for them. Of course the pop culture articles are unnecessary, but if I want to keep up on all the news, it's Fox News.

For instance, did you hear about Obama slamming Biden on any other news site?
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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/02/10/did-obama-throw-biden-bus/


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February 11, 2009 02:53 PM
Sure they are creditable. Any time they start a segment with "AP is reporting that...". They are at least creditable to the end of that sentence.

I think that overall their reporting on things is highly slanted but they are reporting new things; not just waiting to hear it from some other source. So if you know the slant then you can make it creditable. It must more important what you do with the information than whether or not the original source is slanted.

If you see something said by O'Reily and then go repeating it like it's gospel then your an idiot. You should always check multiple sources. Life is no different than the high school reference paper everyone had to write. If you have only one source you FAIL.
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February 12, 2009 07:31 PM
I'm confused.
Apparently there are two words and both mean the same thing?

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/credible
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/creditable

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