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Is this a palindrome? Can you find a more interesting palindrome poem?

"Dammit I’m Mad"

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Demetri Martin

Dammit I’m mad.
Evil is a deed as I live.
God, am I reviled? I rise, my bed on a sun, I melt.
To be not one man emanating is sad. I piss.
Alas, it is so late. Who stops to help?
Man, it is hot. I’m in it. I tell.
I am not a devil. I level “Mad Dog”.
Ah, say burning is, as a deified gulp,
In my halo of a mired rum tin.
I erase many men. Oh, to be man, a sin.
Is evil in a clam? In a trap?
No. It is open. On it I was stuck.
Rats peed on hope. Elsewhere dips a web.
Be still if I fill its ebb.
Ew, a spider… eh?
We sleep. Oh no!
Deep, stark cuts saw it in one position.
Part animal, can I live? Sin is a name.
Both, one… my names are in it.
Murder? I’m a fool.
A hymn I plug, deified as a sign in ruby ash,
A Goddam level I lived at.
On mail let it in. I’m it.
Oh, sit in ample hot spots. Oh wet!
A loss it is alas (sip). I’d assign it a name.
Name not one bottle minus an ode by me:
“Sir, I deliver. I’m a dog”
Evil is a deed as I live.
Dammit I’m mad.
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demanda | 3 years, 3 months ago
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Yes, it is a palindrome. There is a poet named Mike Maguire that writes palindrome poetry. Here is one of his:

Sun I Saw Was In Us

Sun in us.
A sun I met.
A faded light.

A past rapes a rest.

Can I,
in acts,
erase parts?

A path gilded.
A fate minus
a sun in us.

You can see more here: http://www.spinelessbooks.com/drawninward/

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gonzojoe | 3 years, 3 months ago Report

It's not a bad poem, and at the risk of ganging up on you, Alba, I will say what demanda has been suggesting, i.e. you should strengthen your knowledge as to the definition of a palindrome. There is nothing more ultimately embarrassing than speaking with the tone of authority and judgment that you have taken only to be proven thoroughly wrong.

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demanda | 3 years, 3 months ago Report

It is a palindrome because it is read the same forward and backward...letter by letter NOT word by word. There are a few different types of palindromes...true palindromes (like I posted), word palindromes, or line palindromes. The first line of the poem posted in the question "Dammit I'm mad" is a palindrome because when you write it backwards, it's the same thing.

About the quality of the poem, I think it's good considering how difficult it is to write a true palindrome poem. Abstract, but good.

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albanian | 3 years, 3 months ago Report

Why is that a palindrome? That's like saying a poem rhymes when only the first and last line rhyme. It's a pretty sad excuse for a poem as well.

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karj | 3 years, 3 months ago
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The poet Graywyvern wrote a 427 line palindromic poem-- "The Angel of Death" in 2005
it is in the following site
http://graywyvern.blogspot.com/2004_09_19_graywyvern_archive.html
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In 1991, Gordon Dow composed a 306 word palindrome titled Dog Sees Ada
it is in the following site
http://www.growndodo.com/wordplay/palindromes/dogseesada.html
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deathmarcher | 3 years, 3 months ago
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http://www.englishforums.com/English/LongestPalindrome/bvwzq/post.htm
About 3/4 of the way down this page (past the huge, incomprehensible palindrome) is one I'd say is worthy.

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albanian | 3 years, 3 months ago
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No it is not a palindrome poem and is not very good either. Only the first and last two lines have palindrome form.

Here is a real one I found:

"The following poem reads from the first line to the last as it does from the last to the first. It was written by James A. Lindon and was first published in Dmitri Borgmann's Beyond Language (1967).

Doppelgänger
Entering the lonely house with my wife
I saw him for the first time
Peering furtively from behind a bush –
Blackness that moved,
A shape amid the shadows,
A momentary glimpse of gleaming eyes
Revealed in the ragged moon.
A closer look (he seemed to turn) might have
Put him to flight forever –
I dared not
(For reasons that I failed to understand),
Though I knew I should act at once.

I puzzled over it, hiding alone,
Watching the woman as she neared the gate.
He came, and I saw him crouching
Night after night.
Night after night
He came, and I saw him crouching,
Watching the woman as she neared the gate.

I puzzled over it, hiding alone –
Though I knew I should act at once,
For reasons that I failed to understand
I dared not
Put him to flight forever.

A closer look (he seemed to turn) might have
Revealed in the ragged moon
A momentary glimpse of gleaming eyes
A shape amid the shadows,
Blackness that moved.

Peering furtively from behind a bush,
I saw him, for the first time
Entering the lonely house with my wife."

It's not great but it's a lot better. A poem should have something to say not just be random words and phrases like your example. To be worthwhile as a palindrome, it should fit the rules (read backwards and forwards by line) but the lines should have a somewhat different meaning even though they are the same words. Otherwise it's just format. In the doppelganger poem notice that the exact same words in the first and last lines, particularly, are saying something quite different. That's the sort of thought provoking contrast that makes the use of words worthwhile.

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demanda | 3 years, 3 months ago Report

The poem in the question is certainly a palindrome poem. It reads the same forward and backward (letter by letter). That's the true definition of a palindrome. The word "racecar" is a classic example.

The poem you posted is actually a LINE palindrome. You can look here for more information:
http://thevirtualworld.blogspot.com/2005/03/palindrome-poems.html

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gonzojoe | 3 years, 3 months ago Report

Demanda is exactly right.

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gonzojoe | 3 years, 3 months ago
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Well knowing two things, viz. that Demetri Martin is a comedian and that he has (based on a commercial I saw on Hulu) performed a sketch in which he lampoons Slam Poetry, I am going to conclude that this poem is a parody. This fact has seemed thus far unnoticed.

Regardless, the poem is a letter by letter palindrome. I took five minutes and confirmed this myself from the last letter to the first. As has already been explained, a palindrome is a piece of language that reads the same backwards and forwards. "Rise to vote, Sir" is a famous example to fans of The Simpsons, but in this poem there are two lines that function as palindromes on their own, that is they would still be palindromes if removed from the poem. "Dammit I'm mad," the title as well as "Evil is a deed as I live."

In poetry palindromes are ultimately nothing more than a format, such as the formats used for Blank Verse, Petrarchian Sonnets, Shakespearean Sonnets, etc. By format, I mean it is nothing more than a predetermined rule about how the poem will be written, and the author must choose his or her words to conform to that rule. Poetic forms are ultimately used then to focus the language of a poem around its theme.

In this case Demetri Martin is somewhat successful. The randomness of the images, combined with their faux-profundity, make them a spot on parody of bad Slam Poetry (which in my experience with Slam Poetry, is about 90% of it), and most impressively, he conformed to a relatively difficult form.

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