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2 years, 9 months ago

Is soy healthy or not?

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Discussing if soy is really a healthy food or not.

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socalsue | 2 years, 9 months ago
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I have been a vegetarian for about 15 years now. I consume many soy foods including the raw edamame, soy nuts, tofu, soy milk, veggie dogs, veggie burgers and Tofurky on a regular basis.

Nutritionally, there are many benefits, one of the most talked about is Isoflavones. Isoflavones are thought to reduce the risk of some cancers. Soy foods are also a low cost protein source.

There are a couple of concerns around the use of soy as a protein. For infants and children, a soy allergy can be as serious as a peanut allergy. If soy is used as the protein source of packaged foods, it can be challenging to weed out unsafe foods.

The other concern is the effects of phytoestrogens in soy. Does their presence in our food supply increase the risk of some types of cancer. The phytoestrogens from soy are currently one suspect in the increasing occurrence of feline hyperthyroidism, especially in younger cats.

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coltech88 | 2 years, 9 months ago
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There are several issues here, most of which (#s 1-6) are unsubstantiated speculations. The seventh claim does seem to have scientific merit.

1.) Caustic chemicals - Yes, there are food grade caustic chemicals, called GRAS chemical (Generally Regarded as Safe) by the USDA. In the typical commercial process for extracting soy proteins from soy beans, the proteins are extracted from defatted soy flour by adjusting the pH to slightly alkaline. (By the way, your blood pH is slightly alkaline, approximately 7.4. Milk of Magnesia has a pH of 10.5.). The pH range at which they adjust it to is to 10.0 and the most common chemical used is caustic soda, or sodium hydroxide. This helps remove the fat, and then the protein is separated from the slurry by adjusting the pH back down to below in the range of 3.8 to 6.0, which is the slightly acid range. (By the way lemons have a pH around 2.0.)

The moral of this story: there is no caustic left in the protein, it changes to salt, or sodium chloride when the pH is lowered. So there is no caustic residue !

http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/5658714/fulltext.html
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_pH_level_of_Milk_of_Magnesia

2.) GMO - genetically modified organisms - A big phrase that sounds bad, but definitely isn't the threat that it has been inflated to represent. All of the problems that exist are "perceived, or imagined" problems. Scientific evidence for any of these threats has not presented. And we have been genetically modifying plants since man has taken up the agrarian life style.

So you could sum up the Anti-GMO arguments the way Chicken Little perceived things: "The sky is falling! The sky is falling! "

3.) Soy protein in diets has been found to lower estrogen levels associated with the occurrence of breast and colon cancers.

news.bio-medicine.org/.../Diet-rich-in-soy-protein-lowers-estrogens-associated-with-breast-cancer-6694-1/
www.nutraingredients-usa.com/.../Hormone-link-to-colon-cancer-new-benefit-from-soy-protein

Additionally, there have been no studies that have corroborated the research of Drane, et. al -"Oestrogenic Activity of Soya-Bean Products"
which was done on hamsters, measuring uterine weights.

The hamsters were fed soy meal, which is different from soy protein. Soy meal has the fats, whereas soy protein is defatted. Hormones would be removed in the defatting process and would not be in the soy protein.

4-6.) Claims which are all unsupported speculations

7.) The only claim for which I believe that there is some evidence is that some soy-based formulas do have too much aluminum. The safety guideline is one mg/kg bodyweight and some formulas have exceeded this limit. High exposure averages were up to 0.9 mg/kg bw per week for milk-based formulae and 1.1 mg/kg bw per week for soya-based formulae.

Some brands had four times higher than the average concentrations, leading to a four times higher potential exposure.

http://www.nutraingredients.com/Regulation/EFSA-sets-new-intake-level-for-aluminium-in-food
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videopia | 2 years, 9 months ago
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Well, the original e-mail "...warning mothers not to feed their babies infant formulas or baby food that includes soy." seems to have a point about proteins and whatnot (you DO need to be careful with infants, of course), but it seems to go off the rails a bit in some ways:

(1) caustic chemicals - And? There are lots of "caustic" chemicals, many of them entirely natural and normal. Like soap!

(2) GMOs? Yes, we should be careful, but humans have been modifying the genetics of plants and animals for thousands of years. It's what we do. If a particular GMO is shown to be dangerous, then we should ban it, but a general fear of GMOs is irrational. Personally, I'd rather have GMO soy than pesticide soy (or no soy at all).

(3) Soy = five birth control pills a DAY?

OK, I'm done reading this. This sounds made up, whole cloth. I'd like to see some evidence for this.

Here's what the USDA says. If you were serious about checking this out, I wouldn't rely entirely on the USDA, but it is a good, reputable starting point.

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mayalocke | 2 years, 1 month ago
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Yes soy is healthy.

The soybean has a long history and a very long journey through out the world. This journey, lasting almost 27 centuries, changed the world that we know today. Soy products feed a large part of nearly every country's inhabitants, as well as various non-edible uses. The soybean was first cultivated by the Chinese. It then spread further throughout China and to other countries around it. Some time after the domestication of the soy plant, Europeans too learned about the uses of the soybean and they started to grow it. Much later, with a hand from Benjamin Franklin, the soybean made it's journey to America. The soybean has had a lengthy journey, and one that has effected the whole world.

Soybeans were first used as early as the 11th century BC by the Chinese. Soybeans were honored by the ancient Chinese and the emperor Sheng-Nung named it as one of the five sacred plants. Included with soybeans rice, wheat, barley, and millet. Soybeans were used in this early civilization both as food and also as a medicine. Perhaps the soybean actually helped cure sicknesses because of the vitamins that it contains. Centuries after the soybeans were being used by the Chinese, they were domesticated and it is now said that they could be one of the first crops ever to be grown by humans. It wasn't long after this when the rest of the world learned about the benefits of the soybean.

More on The History of Soy - http://www.organic-items.com/history-of-soy.htm

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sonicorange | 2 years, 9 months ago
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Soy is in fact very healthy. It can promote growth and can put up to 20 years on to your life if you eat it every day. (I got that fact from some magazine I happened to be reading at the dentist so I don't have a source sorry). So, in conclusion, Soy is very healthy and, with the right seasoning, can tast pretty good.

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rame20002007 | 2 years, 9 months ago
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I think soy is not good for health.

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neetalia | 2 years, 9 months ago
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Of course soya is good for us esp adults as it is high in protein and thus helps in hair groth and also aids to step up metabolism.For an adult this is must in ones diet.http://www.skinsheen.com/articles-protein-shakes-and-supplements-54.aspx

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rslakinski | 2 years, 9 months ago
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My naturopath asked me to avoid soy for awhile to determine if I am allergic to it. She said it is a common allergen and tends to be highly processed and highly processed foods of any kind do not tent to be all that good for you.

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jasminemayer | 2 years, 9 months ago
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Soy is bad in our health; that’s the real truth behind the lies about soy. Soy has staked its claim as a food that will protect against heart disease and reduce the risk of cancer. Sadly, all this claims are just not the truth. It also contains phytic acid which reduces the absorption of calcium, iron and zinc in our body.

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spoon | 2 years, 9 months ago Report

Do you have any sources that would confirm these claims?

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duenhsiyen | 2 years, 9 months ago Report

There are pros and cons regarding phytic acid. Check the wikipedia entry for more details: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phytic_acid

"Phytic acid is a strong chelator of important minerals such as calcium, magnesium, iron, and zinc, and can therefore contribute to mineral deficiencies in people whose diets rely on these foods for their mineral intake, such as those in developing countries.On the other hand, it has been shown that phytic acid is protective against osteoporosis, and low consumption of phytate should be considered a risk factor for osteoporosis. It also acts as an acid, chelating the vitamin niacin, which is basic, causing the condition known as pellagra. In this way, it is an anti-nutrient, despite its theraputic effects (see below) which simultaneously make it a beneficial phytochemical. For people with a particularly low intake of essential minerals, especially young children and those in developing countries, this effect can be undesirable."

"Phytic acid may be considered a phytonutrient, providing an antioxidant effect. Phytic acid's mineral binding properties may also prevent colon cancer by reducing oxidative stress in the lumen of the intestinal tract. Researchers now believe that phytic acid, found in the fiber of legumes and grains, is the major ingredient responsible for preventing colon cancer and other cancers.
It has been shown that phytic acid is protective against Parkinson's disease in vitro. The compound significantly decreased apoptotic cell death induced by 1-methyl-4-phenylpyridinium in a cell culture model.
Phytic acid's chelating effect may serve to prevent, inhibit, or even cure some cancers by depriving those cells of the minerals (especially iron) they need to reproduce. The deprivation of essential minerals like iron would, much like other broad treatments for cancers, also have negative effects on non-cancerous cells."

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kabaxi | 2 years, 9 months ago
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YES definitely,Soy is a complete protein, and soyfoods are rich in vitamins and minerals including folate, potassium and, in some cases, fiber.

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soundboy | 2 years, 9 months ago
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I have been interested in health and nutrition for many years and everything I have read and heard says that soy is healthy. Too much of anything can be bad for you, but overall soy is one of the more healthy foods out there.

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saulekas | 2 years, 9 months ago
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Soy can be very healthy if it is prepared in a proper way. The best is sprouted soy beans. You can grow them at home. Those in the shop are often acidic. When sprouted, soy beans become alkaline and more nutrient rich. Unsprouted soy beans are slightly acidic. Also it is healthy to eat soy in a form of tofu or soy milk (but it must be UNSWEETENED in order to be any beneficial to health), but the best way is to eat sprouts. They are easy to grow, no need for soil or special equipement. You buy ORGANIC seeds (about 3-4$ per pound), put them in a (preferably in a purified) water for about 9-11 hours and then take dish with holes used for washing vegetables etc. and put it on a bowl with soy beans on top. 3 times per day rinse by putting water and letting it drain to the bowl and grow them until about 1-2 inches. It takes up to 5 days.

This is the article I recommend reading if you need more info about soy's effect on health:

http://articlesofhealth.blogspot.com/2008/03/sprouted-soy-is-good-for-body-and-may.html
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articlesofhealth.blogspot.com / book "pH Miracle" by Dr. Rober O. Young

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truth7 | 2 years, 9 months ago
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The article mentioned hexane as a dangerous compound in soy protein isolate. This really has more to do with the processing of soy than soy itself. You will find hexane in all sorts of processed fats and oils from all sorts of sources.

Soy does bind to thyroxine, which can exacerbate hypothyroidism in people who have it. However, for people with normal thyroid function, it would take a lot of soy to cause any noticeable effect. I consume soy milk as a substitute for cow's milk all the time and my thyroid levels are fine.

My main concern with soy is the fact that it mimics estrogen, which could theoretically trigger cancer. There are some isolated, weak links between excess soy consumption over the course of several years and lung cancer. However this has not been extensively studied and I would not cut soy from your diet just because of that.

As for the aluminum content, soy is not the only culprit. If you drink tea you're getting aluminum and fluoride. And I'm sure there's plenty of other foods that contain aluminum and a host of other unwelcome metals as well.

Overall soy is a great part of any diet. It's high in fiber, low in carbohydrates, and full of healthy fats, so it's not something I'd consider removing from your diet unless absolutely necessary.

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indrani | 1 year, 10 months ago
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Soy improves bone health
Soy relieves menopausal symptoms
Soy reduces risk for heart diseases
Soy helps to prevent certain cancers
Soy is very nutritive
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http://www.harneedi.com/index.php/articles/6-healthcare-articles

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duenhsiyen | 2 years, 9 months ago
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I consider tofu to be healthy way of balancing your diet. As you replace meat in your diet with soy based products, it becomes increasingly healthier. In particular, you could dramatically lower your cholesterol intake, and replace saturated animal fats with healthier vegetable oils.

For those on a vegetarian diet, soybeans have a high content of lysine, an essential amino acid necessary for optimal human growth. Eating soybeans helps achieve better balance in your protein intake. Lysine availability in all vegetarian diets is the chief factor limiting growth, and soybeans have a lot of it, and it is very cheap. No wonder the Chinese eat so much of it! It is even better to add a little meat (it does not have to be much) to dramatically improve the overall nutrient value of the proteins in your diet.

I don't know where the excess aluminum comes from. Tofu is made from soybean milk, and can be precipitated using either Calcium sulfate, Magnesium chloride or "Nigari" which is seawater minus the sodium chloride. Nigari could contain other contaminants, such as aluminum, I don't know. Eating tofu coagulated with Calcium sulfate could also add to your calcium intake, which many are deficient in. Eating tofu precipitated with Nigari would add other trace elements, and would taste better, depending of course on the quality of the Nigari.

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duenhsiyen | 2 years, 9 months ago Report

I hope you are not commenting on my particular response. Perhaps, if you have the time, you could revise the beginning so it at least points to the comment you really want to respond to. Thanks

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