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3 years, 3 months ago

Is it bad to run your iPhone all night?

Lately I've taken to wearing my headphones and listening to my ipod/iphone as I fall asleep. In the morning I've noticed that it's typically down around 10% battery, or so low it doesn't turn on. That makes sense, of course, since it was running all night.

What I'm wondering is whether that's bad for the iPhone in general, or for the battery life? Thinking I should switch over to keeping it in a charging dock at night (the only reason I use the headphones is to not wake up the Mrs.)
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robbrown | 3 years, 3 months ago
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Lithium Ion batteries, like the one found in the iPhone are only good for about 500 charges [1].

This number depends (rather drastically) on how you use the phone. Discharging a lithium ion battery completely every night will decrease the number of charge cycles that the battery is capable of. Lithium Ion batteries are best serviced when they are constantly "topped up" and not constantly "drained out" [2].

Beyond batteries, having headphones in your ears all night may not be the healthiest thing you could do for your ears. Even if the volume is low the constant modulation of the music almost directly on your ear drums will contribute to hearing loss over an extended period of time. You will likely notice the damage when there is a significant amount of background noise and you're trying to distinguish a particular sound, listening to high frequencies, and listening to low frequencies.

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philipy | 3 years, 3 months ago Report

Thanks Rob, info on both batteries and hearing much appreciated!

Can hear fine in normal circumstances, but sometimes not in a bar or party.

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robbrown | 3 years, 3 months ago Report

"unless you're completely draining your battery every day and charging it back up completely every night, you shouldn't have anything to worry about for the life of your iPhone"

http://www.tuaw.com/2007/07/12/macworld-clears-up-confusion-around-iphone-charge-cycles/

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philipy | 3 years, 3 months ago Report

This is different to what Apple say on their site about battery life.

For example they say that running the battery down to absolute zero at least once a month is good for its lifespan.

http://www.apple.com/batteries/iphone.html

I am also greatly instead in the question of iPhone / IPod Touch battery life, so would love clarification of these issues.

Esp concerned about the 500 charges thing. What I read, but I can't find it now, is something like that the battery life drops 20% after 500 charges. Not quite the same as "only good for 500 charges". If that's wrong, I want to know!

PS I see that the Forum thread you posted is based on what a guy remembers the Apple engineer saying at a talk "a month or two back". The possibility of having misremembered or misunderstood is high.

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shakespearegeek | 3 years, 3 months ago Report

Thanks Rob. Don't worry about the music - we're talking about earbuds here, and I have yet to actually wake up with them still in my ears :). While the iPod stays on, it does not continually blast music into my brain. The question was primarily about the battery life of the iPhone.

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philipy | 3 years, 3 months ago Report

Btw, worth noting that Apple can replace the batteries.

$79 + $6.95 shipping. Not cheap, but less than buying a new iPhone/iTouch.

http://www.apple.com/batteries/replacements.html

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robbrown | 3 years, 3 months ago Report

"I am also greatly instead in the question of iPhone / IPod Touch battery life, so would love clarification of these issues. Esp concerned about the 500 charges thing."

The battery life is a hot topic in Mac circles. Apple does not subscribe to an open source hardware design philosophy and this includes their (as you pointed out) expensive batteries. There is little documentation on the exact number of charge cycles that an iPhone has. In the past, as mentioned in that slashdot article, Apple seems to have squashed some of the studies that have been done.

Contact a 3rd party Apple Repair / modification shop in your area. Often, these are found around College campuses. For first-hand information, ask them how many charges they estimate an iPod is capable of. This ~500 number is the basis of my information and the URL I provided above backs it up. Since there isn't a lot of information about this limitation online, I suggest that if you're concerned, you talk to a 3rd party repair shop.

A solid understanding of battery and DC technology would help us uncover the real numbers behind your question. Since it's off-topic, I won't comment much, but I'll point out these links:

Apple's definition of a "Charge Cycle" is important:
http://www.apple.com/batteries/

One of the most referenced articles on Lithium Ion batteries:
http://www.buchmann.ca/Article5-Page1.asp

The complete (user contributed of course) Wikipedia article:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium_ion_battery#cite_note-18

"Rob, got any refs about hearing issues "significant amount of background noise and you're trying to distinguish a particular sound"

As with many teachers, working closely with Audiologists is an important part of the gig. Hearing impairments are responsible for a large number of learning related misdiagnoses. I have a good amount of experience in this area. While I always defer to an Audiologist for a proper diagnosis (as should anyone), the causes and symptoms are pretty easy to understand.

Again, without delving too far into the subject, here are some links for more information:

http://www.ehealthmd.com/library/hearingloss/HL_causes.html

http://www.healthscout.com/ency/68/598/main.html

http://hcd2.bupa.co.uk/fact_sheets/Mosby_factsheets/Hearing_Loss.html

In short, any sustained irregular noise will damage or change your ability to hear. I believe that this fact is "by design" / "part of evolution". People who regularly spend time in noisy environments can hear perfectly fine in those environments but cannot if displaced.

Sustaining in-ear noise for many hours at a time regularly, every night, will change the way that your eardrum and ossicles interpret sound.

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philipy | 3 years, 3 months ago Report

Ok, I found a reference that reflects what I remembered. The official Apple position seems to be that the iPhone battery will lose 20% of its capacity after 400 full charge and discharge cycles. i.e. A full charge will then last you 80% of the time it did when brand new.

http://www.macworld.com/article/58916/2007/07/iphonebattery.html

Any reason to doubt that?

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philipy | 3 years, 3 months ago Report

Btw Rob, got any refs about hearing issues "significant amount of background noise and you're trying to distinguish a particular sound"?

I have never been into listening to music very loud, but I do seem to find it harder than other people to listen to conversation in a place like a busy bar where there's a lot of background noise.

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easyeboy | 3 years, 3 months ago
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It's not bad, and as long as you have an iPhone, then why not use it while you can. If it's in the night or the day, it doesn't matter the time of the day you use it, but the longer you use it, the more the battery will weaken. I'm sure the iPhone is built to last at least a couple years with major use all day long, so it shouldn't be bad, but it would certainly lead to having to replace it quicker. Apple knows that the iPhone battery won't last forever, so they purposely build in some obsolescence, so that within a couple years (or 500 charges) you will want to get another one, when your battery does not last as long as it did when you first got it.

It's not about using your battery on the iPhone that's important, yet rather using the battery efficiently. By not draining the battery, you will have a better running iPhone.

Below are 10 tips to conserve your iPhone battery:

Tip 1 : Turn Wi-Fi off when not needed

Tip 2 : Turn off Bluetooth

Tip 3 : Set Push/Fetch settings appropriately

Tip 4 : Turn off 3G if not available

Tip 5 : Minimise use of Location Services

Tip 6 : Set appropriate brightness level

Tip 7 : Upgrade to latest firmware

Tip 8 : Minimise auto-lock time

Tip 9 : Shutdown apps before locking

Tip 10 : Tweak Sound/Vibrate settings

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jp95zm6 | 3 years, 3 months ago
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A more important issue is keeping the battery cool. The warmer the battery, the faster it's life is used up. Keep it in the open, not in a pocket or in the sun for example, for long use sessions.

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shakespearegeek | 3 years, 3 months ago Report

It's a good point. Having an ipod rolling around the blankets with you does certainly warm it up more than if it was sitting on the nightstand in a dock.

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cyber34 | 3 years, 3 months ago
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The same question could be asked "Is it bad to have my MP3 player on all the time during the day?" The iPhone doesn't have any internal moving parts as far as I'm aware, so the only real problem would be the constant battery use. All rechargeable batteries lose some of their potential energy capacity over time the more they're used, but that in my opinion that shouldn't be that much of a deterrent to stop you from using your devices as much as you need them.

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zulqarnain | 3 years, 3 months ago
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Yes its disastrous for your ears

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