Is hoarding a form of mental illness?
Is hoarding a form of mental illness? I love her, but she is stubborn and set in her ways. I just wonder we would go for help with this problem.
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The key here will be in determining if your grandmother has what might become a new diagnosis in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-5) called hoarding disorder or if she has another OCD, OCPD type of mental illness or even dementia or schizophrenia where one of the symptoms of that illness is the compulsion to not throw away anything... or if she is just fine and likes to have and keep all of her stuff.
Researchers are still working on determining if hoarding disorder can exist within a human mind in the absence of other mental illnesses like OCD, OCPD, schizophrenia, dementia, or even Prader-Willi syndrome etc because as it is described right now compulsive hoarding is considered a symptom of another mental illness and not a mental illness in itself.
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The DSM-5 Obsessive-Compulsive Spectrum Sub-Work Group of the Anxiety, Obsessive-Compulsive Spectrum, Posttraumatic, and Dissociative Disorders Work Group is proposing the creation of a new diagnosis in DSM-5 named “hoarding disorder.” This proposed diagnosis would apply to hoarding that occurs in the absence of, or independently from, other organic or mental disorders.
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Hoarding in general is considered difficult to treat.
I wish you and your family the best in finding a resolution.
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M$Interesting and thank you or your input! I do not actually know of any other hoarders in the family. IN fact, I am the exact opposite. I throw anything out. I do not look at "things' as having sentimental value. As long as I have my family surrounding me, things are just things. Perhaps I have the opposite problem of hoarding.
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M$Actually, loneliness is a form and a cause for depression. Sometimes they slip into this so slowly that people closest to them don't see it. There was a program a while back on Discovery about this with Doctors and this self-esteem and depression issues they said were the two most prevelant. As beyond this it was deep psychosis problems and they said this was rare. Spend some time with Grandma as when she is byherself all she has is memories.
Interesting. My grandma is not visibly depressed, however her husband died over 20 years ago. So she lives alone. Maybe the problem got worse since he died. I had not thought about it, but perhaps she is surrounding herself with stuff instead of people. Thanks!
http://www.mahalo.com/answers/what-causes-someone-become-a-hoarder
and judging by what my refrigerator currently looks like:
http://www.cooking-questions.com/how-long-is-too-long-to-keep-refrigerated-left-overs
maybe you might label me a hoarder too.
I confess that to eat at my kitchen table, you would have to clear a space off. Sometimes I don't even bother doing that, and I put the food on top of the mail or whatever. I attribute this to just being lazy and being too distracted to make the decision to save or throw away. Right now, the kitchen table is covered with junk but I rather answer this question, rather than clear it off.
I hoard because I like to have stuff readily at hand for all the ongoing projects I like to do. The only problem is that it is getting to the point where I cannot find what I need, when I need it. Sometimes, it is easier to just go to the store to buy something, rather than trying to find it here, even though I know I have it.
One of the pleasures of hoarding is that you do forget what you have, and so it is always a marvel to open up a box that you have not opened up for a while and rediscover what you have.
Another advantage of the hoarding mentality occurs when my wife and I go traveling. Since I have the propensity to save everything, in about a weeks time in a new location, I have already collected enough stuff in the hotel room to almost start my life over again. I usually save the left overs from our meals out, and then save the plastic containers the food was packed in. Then my thinking is that all I need to do is upgrade what I have. The first step would be to buy a nice dish, and then maybe some nice utensils, etc. It is quite amusing, but I do feel more comfortable as I accumulate stuff. Of course, most of it has to be thrown out when we check out, but I save just enough food and utensils for the flight home, since they no longer serve meals on flights anymore, unless you fly first class.
Rather than pay for therapy, why don't you offer the same amount that you would have paid the therapist, and pay her to throw stuff away? This strategy would actually work for me. However, no one has made that offer to me yet.
As a child, I am wondering what you thought when you went to your grandmother's place? I suspect some of your ideas regarding orderliness have changed as you grew up so now, as an adult, you react with more distress.
I notice that people who have lived through the Great Depression tend to be hoarders. I actually love going to their homes to see what they have.
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M$Very interesting perspective! In alot of ways I think my grandma is the same. However, she would never let me help throw things out, she just will not part with her things, that is part of the problem. On the other hand, you may be right about the Great Depression. I know many families had it hard including my grandma. They worked so hard for everything they had. That may be the underlining problem. She values a dollar more than anyone I know.
As a kid we thought it was fun, there was so much to play with. As an adult I am just worried for her. We just got my Mom into a nursing home and diagnosed with severe bipolar and Dementia and that was a 2 years process because it started with denial.
My grandma falls from time to time and it at this point seems unsafe. But, she is so set in her ways. My aunt has approached my Grandma several times and got nowhere. But at this point, we are all doing nothing else so far. I guess we were not sure what next to do. I love all the answers here including yours, very helpful!
Thanks!
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M$When someone is gathering useless junk without purpose, they surely have a mental disorder. When the hoarding has no purpose, that is it.
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M$People, like your grandmother, hoard all sorts of things. What they share in common is that they are typically going through something on an emotional level and deal with the issue by keeping things around them because they see sentimental value in it. I first noticed my mother having a hard time throwing things away after the death of my grandmother. Hoarding runs in my family but fortunately I find it so ridiculous I am the opposite of the women in my family.
As far as options go, you may cause a bit of resentment if you or other family members try to clean her house for her. The mayoclinic.com site has a brief article that explains the disorder and suggests seeking a mental health professional and possibly the local authorities. The homes of many hoarders turn out to be health and fire hazards. I don’t know where you live but try searching for a professional organizer or someone trained in Chronic Disorganization. I’ve added the website of a company that conducts counseling over the computer if you don’t find anyone locally.
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There is a Obsessive-Compulsive Spectrum Sub-Work Group survey within the PsychiatricNews source if you are interested I have included the link to the survey here.
American Psychiatric Association (APA) | Hoarding Survey
For more information on the APA click here -> http://www.psych.org/
Awesome! Thank you!
Awesome information and very interesting. Mental illness does run in my family, however, it is not clear to me if she has anything besides the hoarding. Perhaps OCD if you consider her being unable to get rid of stuff. I am not sure if that would go hand in hand in any way. She has always kept everything including if a dollar bill is new, she can not spend it. She has all her kids toys and nothing besides garbage has ever been thrown away. You can not even ask for an old family picture. She will not part with a thing. I guess what I am concerned about is it no longer safe. Thanks so much! I am going to take a moment and read your sources as well!