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M$3 June 19, 2009 02:48 AM

What evidence of Election fraud is there?

I know I've heard things like "results were announced before voting ended" and stuff like that. What news and articles are there our there that really investigate the legitimacy of the Iranian election
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June 19, 2009 04:29 PM
BBC News analysis:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/8101621.stm

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What is the evidence of electoral fraud?

The way the result was announced was very unusual. It came out in blocks of millions of votes, in percentages, rather than being announced province-by-province as in past elections.

And as the blocks of votes came in, the percentages for each candidate changed very, very little. That suggested that Mr Ahmadinejad did equally well in rural and urban areas. Conversely, it suggested that the other three losing candidates did equally badly in their home regions and provinces.

This overturns all precedents in Iranian politics and there has been no explanation, despite repeated questions, from the authorities.

It is all very suspicious. But it does not necessarily mean there has been widespread electoral fraud. For example, a group of international pollsters did an independent telephone survey three weeks ago which suggested a two-to-one level of popular support for Mr Ahmadinejad over Mr Mousavi, with the other candidates on less than two percent each.

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On the one hand, it looks like there are irregularities.

On the other hand, don't underestimate how much support Ahmadinejad actually has. He is popular in rural areas, and with the poor in the cities. Those people might not be out on the Tehran streets, and they certainly don't Twitter. But they probably did vote for him.
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June 19, 2009 04:05 AM
If there are wide spread corruption all over the country and the leading power is banning other political parties; which creates a lack of competition because of the lack of political parties. Inconsistency of election turnout records or huge and sudden gains in votes and other such irregularities by a candidate. Disparity between number of voters seen at the voting stations and the final results. Some of the more obvious evidence are bad reputation of the candidate, extended terms in office by one candidate, and public unrest are all clues to election fraud.

Iran is a theocratic state with a supreme leader, making it an authoriatarian/totalitarian type of leadership. It is very easy under this government system for the supreme leader to "pre-elect", basically, the next president because the supreme leader has the authority to disqualify any candidate. So considering this, the supreme leader is very much involved in the elections and will get what he wants in the presidential elections under this type of government. With the most recent Iranian presidential election there are some reasons to believe that it has been rigged. The tabulation of the ballots were organized way too fast, there were hundreds of reports of irregularity, Ahmadinejad gained votes in regions that he probably shouldn't have and identification numbers were missing on 10million of the ballots.
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June 19, 2009 08:54 AM
In my opinion, it is not a matter of where is the evidence. We know the election ended and within hours the results were already tabulated. I don't know how any number of people could count over 36 million paper ballots in a matter of hours.

Here is a great website on the events of that day:
http://www.truthout.org/061409Z

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