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2 years, 11 months ago

I just found a Banana Spider living on my deck. What should I do?

This spider is huge, beautiful, and living up high on the eave of my house. I don't want to hurt it. Are they good spiders or bad? Should I adopt it as my new pet? (it's the size of my hand) What name should I call it? Should I relocate it? It's beautiful to look at, I just don't want it to stalk me.
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buddawiggi | 2 years, 11 months ago
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I am not an Arachnologist.
@bunnyphuphu it looks like you will be ok. The Banana Spider from South America has a neurotoxic vemom like a Black Widow and is deadly.
The Bannana Spider from North America is venomous as well but usually will only get you a irritating welt for about 24 hours. I wouldn't take the chance telling the difference. They travel north with imported bananas.
To be safe either have you new friend expertly identified or carefully get him a new place to live.

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The nephila clavipes banana spider of North America possesses venom similar in nature to the venom of the black widow, but far less potent, making it quite harmless to humans. A bite from a North American banana spider will not result in much more than a welt that will pass within 24 hours.

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notfundofspiders | 1 year, 8 months ago Report

We have a banana spider on the outside of our screened porch. It is magnificent! There are two "hot air balloon shaped" sacs near it. There was only one until recently. What is that? Are there baby spiders in the sacs? Is it true that the mother will die after they are born?

I check it every night before I go to bed and every morning when I arise. My family says I want to make certain it hasn't moved! Actually, I'm fascinated by it. The web is awesome and it holds things and wraps them up and then they disappear.

By the way, I HATE spiders. I can't believe I'm writing you about it but it's amazing!

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nativenerd | 2 years, 11 months ago Report

@buddawiggi - Ugh...it's like Steve Irwin's mentally handicapped evil twin...=( I couldn't watch it all the way through...I tried! just couldn't...

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bunnyphuphu | 2 years, 11 months ago Report

@buddawiggi - so I guess the only thing I have to worry about is that if she becomes feral and comes after me, the bite isn't any worse than a Black Widow? Well... I was bitten by one of those spiders and my lips swelled up bigger than Angela Jolie's. It attacked my mucus membranes. I looked like this for a few days... (I kid you not!)

http://i.ehow.com/images/GlobalPhoto/Articles/4662074/lips-main_Full.jpg

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vaj09 | 2 years, 10 months ago Report

We just got back from Jamaica and while on a tour our guide found one of these spiders for my 5 year old daughter she and I both held the spider and it was fine. Our guide told us that they were not dangerous and would not bite it was about the size of the spider in the picture. They are beautiful. Enjoy it.

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pieisgood | 2 years, 7 months ago Report

that video is completely disgusting! poor demented kid...

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buddawiggi | 2 years, 11 months ago Report

The kid that eats all the marbles in pre-school is not supposed to live long enough to breed....
This kid probably wont make it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2qbl-dRVz0

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jeffhoard | 2 years, 11 months ago Report

"I am not an Arachnologist"

Beautiful use of the disclaimer, this should start the "I'm not a" meme here on Mahalo. Who says these disclaimers should only be used for health questions.

Great answer btw.. I would of said "step on it" ...

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jeffhoard | 2 years, 11 months ago Report

@bunnyphuphu No, I'm not arachnophopic (sp?) You're probably right actually, I wouldn't kill it, unless I had to. You just have better judgment than me by asking this question.

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bunnyphuphu | 2 years, 11 months ago Report

@jeffhoard... do I sense a little arachnophobia? If you saw this spider, you'd see that it's too beautiful to step on.
Plus if you tried to step on it, it would be a big as your foot and its fangs would go through your shoes and into your foot causing instant paralysis and sudden death!
(trying hard to give Jeff the heebie jeebies!)

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interzone | 2 years, 11 months ago
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Here is a short note from a huge spider fan:

Since it appears to be a fairly harmless little thing, I'd say - keep it!

Generally speaking, spiders are seclusive animals, and they are kind of "trappers" rather than hunters, i.e. spiders don't actually attack, or proactively seek prey, but rather, they sit on their nets, waiting patiently for a bug to come their way... They certainly don't stalk people ;)

I'd call her Spinster, how about that?
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lauragonzo | 2 years, 11 months ago Report

GAH!!!!!!!! (a tad bit arachnophobic here....)

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interzone | 2 years, 11 months ago Report

@bunnyphuphu - definitively better than cable, and I can agree with you regarding the name, too!

Have a good time you two!

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bunnyphuphu | 2 years, 11 months ago Report

Thanks @interzone. I have always taken the approach of liking all creatures. Great and creepy. I can sit on the deck (when it's not 112) and watch her do her thing. It's almost better than cable! Also, thanks for the name too. although I do think webmaster is nice too.

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timcadieux | 2 years, 11 months ago Report

ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!

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marcand | 2 years, 11 months ago Report

I agree! High up on the eave, I would keep it too. If nothing else, it should provide some educational value as you make daily observations on eating habits, web building and repair, etc. Maybe you should call it the webmaster. LOL

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mysterygirl89 | 2 years, 11 months ago Report

I hate spiders but, lol! Love the answer. My brother once had a pet Raccoon. Lol. Scary huh.

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space-angel | 2 years, 11 months ago Report

i understand your appreciation of nature @bunnyphuphu, but having a bit of Arachnophobia i would send my husband out to kill the monster, lol. and because i know he feels the same way you do about "all of nature's living things" i'd probably make him bring me back some proof of eradication...lol

also if i saw the spider in this picture, i would sell my house.

yuck, just thinking about this situation makes me feel all buggy!

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n4thanl | 2 years, 11 months ago
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"Banana Spider (North American)" is the colloquial name for the Golden silk orb-weaver, a mostly harmless but relatively large spider found in all of the non-antarctic continents. It is called a banana spider because of its banana colored body. Though venomous (the venom is similar to that of a Black Widow), the spider has much less venom and it is far more diluted, making the spider mostly harmless. Don't let it bite you, though, because it will hurt. Once bitten, it will seem a lot like a wasp sting. The reason I made the distinction between North American and otherwise is because of the Brazilian banana spider. The Brazilian banana spider is highly venomous and aggressive. They are so named because they have traveled to North America in banana crates. Based on your image, I can determine with certainty that your spider is a North American banana spider. Since you don't want it to bite you, your best solution is to spray the web with your garden hose until the spider decides to go away. It will not die, but will move its web to somewhere more hospitable. If you find this topic as fascinating as I do, there are many sources I used to formulate this response at the bottom of the page. They go much more in depth than this answer.

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bunnyphuphu | 2 years, 11 months ago Report

thanks @N4thanl. I'm getting attached to my spider. She seems to be happy and is keeping herself busy catching insects. If she gets to be a problem, I'll hose her down and make her move.

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pieisgood | 2 years, 7 months ago Report

i would whack it down with a stick. sorry but all bugs, beuatiful or otherwise just creep me out.

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andreaxxjean | 2 years, 11 months ago
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I do have arachnophobia, however, I like looking at spiders from a distance for a short period of time (maybe 10 seconds). They're fascinating little creatures. I wont get closer than 2 feet away from one otherwise I have this paranoid feeling it's going to shoot it's web at me and crawl up on my face and lay its eggs in my mouth or something. Yeah.. like I said... I have arachnophobia.

Well, if you wanted to keep it as a pet, I would call your local pest control place and ask if they have more information about this type of spider. You obviously can't defang or devenomize it because then it would starve. The reason why I say call your local pest control is because they're sure to deal with this type of animal (Golden Silk Spider... aka Banana Spider) a lot and know what to do and what not to do while handling it. As far as I know, this spider is non aggressive though may attack if it's threatened. So don't touch!....Yet! lol

I know this is a different type of banana spider here but its for good reads (and a little comedy). It's about the Brazilian Wandering Spider. The title of the page is:
Natural Viagra: Spider Bite Causes Erection. May 1, 2007
http://www.livescience.com/health/070501_spider_venom.html

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pieisgood | 2 years, 7 months ago Report

im sorry, even the spider costume creeeps me out!

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bunnyphuphu | 2 years, 11 months ago Report

Thanks for the link @andreaxxjean.
I'm sorry you have arachnophobia. I've only had one spider play happily on my hand, and that was Rosie the tarantula at the Butterfly Pavilion (near Denver).http://www.butterflies.org/arthropods.cfm
Maybe you could work up to having Rosie sit on your hand.
If not, you can always get a cute plush version of a spider (with a cute dog inside!)
It would nice if my spider was a Wondering Spider... that way I'd have a backup plan if I needed help in the 'love department'.

http://www.thefunnydogs.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/spider-dog.jpg

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andreaxxjean | 2 years, 11 months ago Report

LOL Wandering Spiders are deadly... So I don't think you'd want one of those on your deck.

I think my dog would rip me to shreds if I tried to put one of those costumes on him... He's a lhasa apso.... but he's viscous.

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cheapgamer | 2 years, 11 months ago
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South American or North American? Wisegeek has some great information
http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-a-banana-spider.htm

Given that this South American is a very venomous spider I would say keeping it as a pet is right out. If you have a local animal control office you may want to call them ASAP.

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bunnyphuphu | 2 years, 11 months ago Report

Well... I don't mean 'pet' in the way that I would hug her, and squeeze her, and call her George. (her name is Spinster, the Webmaster)
As long as she stays in her little area and I in mine... I don't think I'll need to call out the cavalry. But if she's pregnant and planning on having her 10 million babies on my deck... that might be a problem! Thanks.

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lesliec | 2 years, 11 months ago
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I'm sorry I'm still a little shell shocked here. Never have I heard the words spider and beautiful in the same sentence! There would be nothing left of that spider if it was at my house! As long as I don't know they are there it's ok, but once I've seen it I can't sleep knowing it is out there, no way, no how!

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timcadieux | 2 years, 11 months ago Report

I agree.

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bunnyphuphu | 2 years, 11 months ago Report

@lesliec - when I went to post this, I was surprised to find out that there is a sub category under animals just for spiders! I'll venture to guess that it wasn't your idea to put that one in.
You better find out who at Mahalo loves spiders, since they now know it's one of your weaknesses. (evil laugh)

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pieisgood | 2 years, 7 months ago Report

yup. chances are my sister would find it first, bringing the house down screaming.

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nativenerd | 2 years, 11 months ago Report

@lesliec Come on Lesliec! I'm actually a HUGE fan of spiders for one simple reason...they eat mosquitoes (my own personal nemesis), and that makes me hero's in my book.

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brian san | 2 years, 11 months ago
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I say leave it there and buy you a nice sign that says "Warning: This house protected by giant guard spider"

I'm sure it will do a good job taking care of those pesky bugs in the summer.

I would suggest keeping all the little bunnies away from it though..
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bunnyphuphu | 2 years, 11 months ago Report

I like the sign!
(wondering now how I could train her to do tricks)

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albanian | 2 years, 11 months ago
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Unless you live in Brazil, the odd's are billions to one that the spider is a harmless one. Even the one dangerous spider reported in Oklahoma was disputed.

Meanwhile, wisegeek says:
"The North American banana spider is not aggressive, but if you notice banana spiders building webs close to your home and would like them to move, simply tear down the webs. The spiders will relocate further away where they can continue to do their part in keeping down the insect population.

Other names for the N. clavipes or North American banana spider include the writing spider and golden orb weaver. The argiope or yellow and black garden spider is similar in size and sometimes confused with the banana spider. It too is known as 'the writing spider' due to zig-zag patterns in its web."

Using the latin names you can look up more about all these spiders from reputable science sites. If you live in North America the spider is almost certainly beneficial despite people's usual dislike for them.

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albanian | 2 years, 11 months ago Report

I think my usage is correct; but, you could ask Mahalo a grammar question about it.

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brian san | 2 years, 11 months ago Report

Sorry, Posted in the wrong place..
Moved to my answer.

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brian san | 2 years, 11 months ago Report

Hi,
I think your first line is the opposite of what you meant:
billions to one that the spider is "a harmless one"
I think you meant:
billions to one that the spider is "deadly"

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brian san | 2 years, 11 months ago Report

Interesting. I didn't find any good links on "a million to one" or "a billion to one" other than a question on that other Q&A site asking which way the odds go (no good answer to the question by the way).

Maybe a cultural thing? Interesting question for posting on Mahalo?
Either way, I'm sure people knew what you meant, so I will give it a rest.

And sorry again for the accidental post. Gets tricky sometimes.

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jasonyip3 | 2 years, 11 months ago
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The banana spider is a common name used for two entirely different species of spiders, the nephila clavipes of North America, and the phoneutria of Central and South America, the latter of which can be deadly.

The phoneutria or South American banana spider is a large, aggressive spider with a body length of about 1.3 inches (3 cm). This banana spider primarily makes its home in the rain forests but can also be found in cities, where, between 1970 and 1980 it was reportedly responsible for the hospitalization of some 7,000 people in southeastern Brazil.

The South American banana spider's venom is neurotoxic, or acts on the nervous system, and is similar to the venom produced by redback spiders, also known as black widows. A phoneutria banana spider's bite will cause immediate pain, a cold sweat and irregular heartbeat. Antivenin does exist and the bite can be deadly so immediate medical attention is necessary.

Other names for the dangerous phoneutria banana spider include: bananenspinne, kammspinne, and wandering spider.

The nephila clavipes banana spider of North America possesses venom similar in nature to the venom of the black widow, but far less potent, making it quite harmless to humans. A bite from a North American banana spider will not result in much more than a welt that will pass within 24 hours.

N. clavipes banana spiders have elongated bodies that resemble a banana in shape and coloring, beautifully bright yellow and black. The males are about half the size of females, and dark colored. Females grow quite large with a body length of about 1.1 inches (33 cm). North American banana spiders prefer sunny areas and tend to like tall plants or trees. They will often spin a web across a walkway or trail, spanning several feet. The web of the North American banana spider is orb-shaped, golden, and is stronger than most spiders' webs. In fact its silk is stronger than comparable threads of Kevlar or steel.

The North American banana spider is not aggressive, but if you notice banana spiders building webs close to your home and would like them to move, simply tear down the webs. The spiders will relocate further away where they can continue to do their part in keeping down the insect population.

Other names for the N. clavipes or North American banana spider include the writing spider and golden orb weaver. The argiope or yellow and black garden spider is similar in size and sometimes confused with the banana spider. It too is known as 'the writing spider' due to zig-zag patterns in its web.

Although the bite from an N. clavipes banana spider is harmless, an allergic reaction could be severe. If you've been bitten by a spider of any kind and feel concerned, collect the spider, if possible, and see your doctor or contact your local poison center.
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roma | 2 years, 11 months ago
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The North American banana spider is not aggressive, but if you notice banana spiders building webs close to your home and would like them to move, simply tear down the webs. The spiders will relocate further away where they can continue to do their part in keeping down the insect population.

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becauseisaidso | 2 years, 11 months ago
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The Golden Silk Spider is usually called the Banana Spiders because of their yellow bodies. They weave very strong webs which look like gold thread in the sunshine. That’s why they are called Golden Silk Spiders. The female is much bigger than the male. She is about 3 inches long, and the male is only 1/2 inch long. So you got yourself a girl! They make big webs, about 3 feet wide and live all over the southern US, especially Florida. Only two groups--recluse spiders and widow spiders-- are considered poisonous to humans. The banana spiders rarely ever bite people. Some people have allergic reactions to spider bites, but for most people, it’s the same as getting bitten by an ant or deer fly. It’s not fun, but it won’t kill you. Soooooo, adopt away but keep it away from those pesky monkey spiders! Best name: Roxy!

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heathie | 1 year, 5 months ago
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This is a Nephila clavipes spider, very different from a banana spider of south America, not at all dangerous, very beautiful. We work with them in the lab, please don't hurt her (the males are teensy like mosquito teensy) they're extremely gentle, and can be safely handled, I know a very few people who have been bitten, most don't even feel it, and some say it's like a little pinch, most people I know have never been bitten, including thousands of school children from age 3 up. If you decide to handle her, be careful not to drop her, they can't survive a fall from a height without dragline, and unless they have glued dragline to you, they will die if dropped. They're fast at first then slow down.

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sarenaa_love | 2 years, 11 months ago
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Oh wow. Spider. Big. Ah! I have a bit of a arachnophobia. I went to get the mail out of my mailbox the other day and a big black one with a white dot on it's back came out...I yelled and ran...Ha yeah...Then I was in my screened in porch, and there was one that looked exactly like it and I smooshed it..I don't like spiders at all. I think it all started when I was like 4 and I was laying in bed and felt a spider crawling on my leg , looked at it then freaked out! Ever since then...yeahh...

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hortyman | 2 years, 11 months ago
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Ask it for some bananas? :P

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danidee | 2 years, 11 months ago
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I would tear the nest down at night , hopefully it will move on, but I would not attept to mess with it other than havin a professional do it. Although spiders do serve a purpose, alot of people do get bit and it can be life threating.
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momknows | 2 years, 11 months ago
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Actually, this appears to me to be a Golden Silk Spider. If the web appears to be yellowish in color (you can tell easily if you take a few strands and twist them together). Be careful, though, as the spider's immediate reaction is to run towards the disturbance in its web to subdue whatever it apparently has caught (in this case, your fingers). Best to leave it alone unless it's in a doorway or in the way. You can get the spider to crawl on a stick or broom handle an then carry it wherever you want. They stay in their web so no need to worry about it stalking you. The webs of Golden Silk Spiders are as soft as silk but stronger than nylon, in fact, there has been research into using their fibers for ultra-strong cloth, but apparently they tend to be cannibilistic in captivity. Also the big spider you show is a female. Somewhere in the web you may be abe to find a tiny spider that looks like the big one -- that's that male! They are only beneficial, but they do have a painful bite (not life threatening, though). I have been bitten several times in our orange grove; the bite was about like a wasp sting in severity (I am not allergic to insect bites or stings, however!)
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andreaxxjean | 2 years, 11 months ago Report

Golden Silk Spiders are banana spiders. Banana Spider is a nickname used for a couple different kinds of arachnids like the Brazilian Wandering Spider and the Garden Spider as well as the Golden Silk Spider.

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