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How should the 11-yr-old who shot Kenzie Houk be punished?

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kapuaa | 3 years, 3 months ago
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I wouldn't go so far as to say crazy kid, though that's probably true, what a young mind has to go though sometimes cannot be understood by those who have not gone through the same ordeals. Now with that said, from what was talked about in the video about motive of no longer being the center of attention.... well if that is the reason then this kid should be punished pretty hard. Probably as an adult is on the right track. Death, no. Prison beyond youth, I believe so, but why did he do it. Nothing makes murder right but his mind is still young. If unspeakable thing were done to him then I feel that he should be punished as a youth and worked with by specialist. But really it all depends on the full picture of it all.

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darcy logan | 3 years, 3 months ago
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I don't think that life in prison is the answer. First, the cost. It costs approximately $28,000 a year to keep someone in prison. However, life sentences are rarely that. In fact one study says life sentences average only 11 years. But let's round it to say 20 years. He would be 31 years old. From the age of 18 to 31, he cost the country at least $364,000. He will likely cost us more because is is incapable of living in society. Wouldn't that money be better spent rehabilitating him while he is younger and teaching him how to live in society? That way, he could be released.

We focus so much on punishment that we lose track of the purpose of prisons--to protect society. I don't think that there is a high likelihood of him committing the crime again if he receives help.

We want justice, but can we afford to pay for it? America has more people in prisons than any other country. I think we need to stop looking at prisons as a punishment and use them only to lock away people who are a danger to others. Anyone else should be monitored with ankle bracelets and made to work for a living.

Sorry, went off on a tangent, but my point is still there.

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morriss003 | 3 years, 3 months ago Report

Darcy, if I remember from history class, the original purpose of prisons was to convince families not to pursue vendetta. That was the difference between dungeons and prisons. I agree that prisons are necessary to protect society, but the original reason is still a good one and one that too often is forgotten.

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darcy logan | 3 years, 3 months ago Report

I think that is a horrible reason to have prisons! Why should society have to pay to protect criminals from those seeking vengeance? Is this really a problem? I don't think so.

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her07012416 | 3 years, 3 months ago
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If there is evidence that he did it then he should be punished like any one that commited murder

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carriep | 3 years, 3 months ago
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One, we all need to remember that he is innocent until proven guilty. The evidence seems to be against him, but we don't know the entire story yet.

Two, this is a heinous crime and there should be some kind of justice served.

Three, to have the kid serve a sentence in adult jail would be cruel and unusual punishment. Even now, the jail that is housing him is having trouble because he is so young. They are isolating him from the other prisoners, for his own safety, and are not letting him even walk down a corridor with other inmates. As a result, and he has not been able to take a shower because they would need to shut down an entire wing of the jail. They also do not have any uniforms that fit him.

To be put in an adult jail would be cruel and unusual punishment for this boy, because he'd essentially be in solitary confinement, or would otherwise be subject to a very dangerous situation.

Four, kids, even if they know what they are doing, do not have the same independence as adults. They are not allowed to make their own decisions about many things, because the law understands there is a maturity issue and level there. That kids are not mature enough to make many decisions.

Again, I think that punishment is important, but there are serious mitigating circumstances here.

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jennybeanses | 3 years, 3 months ago
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In cases like this, where the boy has threatened and then followed through on a death threat, he should be institutionalized in a high security mental facility for a number of years and given treatment. The fact that he shot a pregnant woman and then got on the bus and went to school like nothing had happened is signs of a serious mental disorder.

Sociopaths have no sense of empathy, remorse or guilt for their actions. To take a gun and murder someone and then get on the school bus and go to school suggests that he had absolutely no idea the repercussions of what he'd done. In the news video, the one man said that the boy felt sad and scared, but there is no evidence that this fear and sorrow has anything to do with what he's done. It's more likely that he's upset about he situation the is currently in. Typical sociopath behavior is to turn the roles around and play the victim. He's is now the victim. Not the woman he shot.

By the time most kids are eleven years old they know all about life and death, and if he had a youth model shot gun, chances are his father had talked to him about hunting and killing animals. He was old enough to know the difference between right and wrong, but he committed murder anyway. The only way to understand what he did is to get him into twenty-four hour psychiatric surveillance and available counseling.

The sad thing about sociopaths is that conventional punishment often does not correct the behavior.

There are programs they put boys like that into. Rehabilitation attempts where they put them through the reality of their crime. They show them crimescene photos, make them own up to what they've in an attempt to get to the bottom of what they've done and rehabilitate them for release back into society. A program like that may very well be suited to this type of crime. Often the punishment of owning up to what they've done is enough, but in many cases those same boys are back in the prison system for equal or lesser crimes within a matter of months because they can't handle the pressures of the real world. Most of them missed out on the process of growing up and entering into adulthood, then they are thrust out into the world and expected to know how to cope. They revert back to the frame of mind that got them in trouble to begin with.

There is no easy answer. I think tough love and "punishment" are ineffectual, but rehabilitation is equally tricky. The only way to find out is to try rehabilitation first, and if it doesn't work opt for punishment. The sad fact is that if it doesn't work that means someone else could be hurt or killed before they see the error of their decision.

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hethr11 | 2 years, 4 months ago Report

First of all, he is not in an adult prison. That was only temporary until they decided on a juvenile center to place him. There isn't any question of innocence. I realize he was only 11 at the time. However, he was smart enough to know to hide a bullet after going shooting with his father. He also knew enough to initially try to frame someone else for the crime. If he had more bullets he had also threatened to kill the victims two children. Whether he is charged as a juvenile or an adult, he is not going to be a productive member of society. Obviously something isn't right with him. And if he's in jail even until 21 he will end up back in jail as an adult. He will be too institionalized to be anything but.

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morriss003 | 3 years, 3 months ago
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This is much too soon to tell. We have the luxury of waiting for all the information to come out. There is no need for a rush to judgment. I have to say that I would be just about as harsh on the adult who made it possible for him to get the weapon.

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skywarrior | 3 years, 3 months ago
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Murdering at 11? I'd say this one shouldn't go much farther than jail with no chance of parole. Or even the death penalty. He murdered a pregnant woman!

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tracebooks | 3 years, 3 months ago
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It's a terribly sad situation. 11-year-olds...5th or 6th graders. Sure, he knew what he was doing, but I doubt he really comprehended it. Kids that age think they're invincible and will live forever, and that the adults in their lives are even more invincible and immortal. He may have been thinking in terms of video games, where sure, a "target" dies, but then the game resets. Even if his mind "knew" that she was going to die, a big part of his subconscious may have been expecting a reset.

Obviously living in a family didn't work for him. He needs to be incarcerated, but he is a child and needs LOTS of help to develop into a mature human being. He's so fatally flawed this young that it's going to take a lot of intervention and effort to get him growing straight again.

That said, historically in many cultures, a child over the age of about 8 would have been killed for killing someone.

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pirate | 3 years, 3 months ago Report

Don't blame this on video games. I wasn't that stupid when I was 11.

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tracebooks | 3 years, 3 months ago Report

I didn't blame it totally on the games, but there is a lot of research to back up that they depersonalize "targets", without the controls that military training gives to not consider civilians targets. See the book Stop Teaching Our Kids To Kill by Lt. Col. Dave Grossman.

Kids develop at different rates. Maybe you were more able to distinguish fantasy and reality at 11.

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pullingweeds | 3 years, 3 months ago
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With compassion but with safety to others.

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263236 | 3 years, 3 months ago
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Its sad but life is lost and I think he has earned the maximum sentence of life in prison.

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pirate | 3 years, 3 months ago
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Life in prison with no chance of parole. Crazy kids.

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