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How many people have got food poisening from the dirty "ring pull" on a drinks can being immersed in the drink when opened.

Also , if you consider that a cat or anything could have urinated on it , how do the drink companies get away with it?
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mattb4rd | 3 years ago
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A lot. And cat urine isn't the culprit, the Norovirus is.

From the CDC:

CDC estimates that 23 million cases of acute gastroenteritis are due to norovirus infection, and it is now thought that at least 50% of all foodborne outbreaks of gastroenteritis can be attributed to noroviruses.

Among the 232 outbreaks of norovirus illness reported to CDC from July 1997 to June 2000, 57% were foodborne, 16% were due to person-to-person spread, and 3% were waterborne; in 23% of outbreaks, the cause of transmission was not determined. In this study, common settings for outbreaks include restaurants and catered meals (36%), nursing homes (23%), schools (13%), and vacation settings or cruise ships (10%).
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billyzap | 3 years ago Report

I knew it would be a lot and I appreciate the detail in your answer but what I am really trying to get is how do the drink companies get away with it. I know the old ring pulls were a litter problem but at what cost? Death to consumers?

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mattb4rd | 3 years ago Report

Because that's the most common microorganism transmitted via soda cans. Especially those kept on ice. The norovirus lives just fine on cold surfaces.

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yagelski | 3 years ago Report

"Because that's the most common microorganism transmitted via soda cans. Especially those kept on ice. The norovirus lives just fine on cold surfaces."

Sorry, but I read nothing in your source to substantiate this claim, or your statement that food poisoning can be contracted from beverage containers.

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mattb4rd | 3 years ago Report

Because it's not the fault of the drink companies. Read the CDC fact sheet. You're attempting, it seems, to associate the design of the beverage container with some amount of responsibility for illnesses. If that were possible, we'd have a lot of companies at fault for consumers misusing their products.

Cars, for example. Following your logic, the car companies should be responsible for causing deaths because cars are heavy and go fast. When they hit a stationary object at highway speeds, and because objects in motion tend to stay in motion, the occupants of the vehicle can and often do get killed. They should therefore make cars that will only go 10MPH, right?

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mattb4rd | 3 years ago Report

@Yagelski so you "refute" my fact without a source of your own? The norovirus thrives in ice bins. Soda cans are often submerged in ice. Norovirus can therefore be transferred to soda cans or other drink containers and transmitted to humans when we drink from them.

It's ok to stipulate that the sky is blue, folks.

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philipy | 3 years ago Report

What does the norovirus have to do with drink cans? Looks like you are answering a different question than asked.

The source says nothing about drink cans at all. Instead it says:

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Most foodborne outbreaks of norovirus illness are likely to arise though direct contamination of food by a food handler immediately before its consumption. Outbreaks have frequently been associated with consumption of cold foods, including various salads, sandwiches, and bakery products. Liquid items (e.g., salad dressing or cake icing) that allow virus to mix evenly are often implicated as a cause of outbreaks. Food can also be contaminated at its source, and oysters from contaminated waters have been associated with widespread outbreaks of gastroenteritis. Other foods, including raspberries and salads, have been contaminated before widespread distribution and subsequently caused extensive outbreaks.

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emmess | 3 years ago
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The drink company's responsibility ends at manufacturing (and possibly distribution, if they have control of the distribution channels). They cannot possibly be responsible for the product after it leaves their production facility.

It is the consumer's responsibility to make sure they clean off any surfaces which may have contact with the food or beverage being consumed.

A little while back there were some stories about wiping off the tops/edges of cans before you drink from them. While I suspect that any chance or incidence of illness from drinking out of such cans is extremely minimal, it wouldn't hurt to simply wipe off, or even thoroughly clean the exterior of a can before consuming the product within.

As to the question of "how many have gotten sick from...?" I would think that determining any correlation between food-borne illnesses and consumption of beverages in cans would be extremely difficult if not impossible to prove. I would think that any statistics would be even more complicated by the fact of how often such beverages are drunk in association with various meat and other high-contamination-risk food products such as at BBQs, picnics and at spectator sports and similar events. I would think at best you could conduct (or find) a study of a random sampling of cans to determine contamination levels on the surface of said cans. I suppose you could also conduct (or find) a study of the possibility of transfer of surface contamination of cans to the beverages contained within.

But as to the actual number sickened by such potential contamination? The world may never know.

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anymonkeycanmanage | 3 years ago
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Which goes to show that, the ideal of way of 'drinking' from a can is a different design, not the current design. There may be as the original poster says, a cat may have urinated on it, there may be dust, dirt accumulated on it, its just plain messy, the opening is too small, the design of the rims allows dirt to accumulate on the rim folds, and which is where you put your mouth on... It is better with a tetrapak carton and a straw...

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