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3 years, 5 months ago

How long would a commercial windmill have to run to produce the energy equivalent to a barrel of oil?

I don't know what optimum windmill out put is but that should be used. I asked my nephew, who is going to school to learn how to maintain and repair windmills but he can't come up with an answer.
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teff torbes | 3 years, 5 months ago
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According to Wikipedia, a barrel of oil is roughly equal to 1.7 megawatt hours of energy.

To compare to a windmill's output, find out how many kilowatt/hours the windmill produces.

This Wikipedia article implies that typical production is 35% of max capacity.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind_power

So, a 1 megawatt rated windmill running at average load creates ~350KW/h per hour, and 1/3-1/2 of that can be used as baseload electric power - something that can always be assumed to be there, but I don't think 35% of 35% of the output is what you were looking at for comparison - you're not looking at base load, but rather the average power generated by the windmill over time. If you're looking for power generated at average wind speeds, that base load 35% of 35% looks to be close to that mark - IE at any random given moment the turbine is probably producing 10-15% of its capacity.

So, if that's the case, and the numbers are correct, we have at full capacity, of course, it'll be 1.7 hours. At overall average output levels over time (35%), it'll be an average 5.9-6 hours to make a barrel equivalent of energy, and, at average wind speeds, power output is significantly lower - only a small portion of the power is made when wind speed is average or below.

http://www.douglaspud.org/Environment/WindPower.aspx

This wind farm concept uses 49 1.3MW generators, which don't make any power until the wind is going 8mph, and produce maximum power when the wind is going 29.1mph. So, on a windy day, it'll be a little over an hour to make one barrel equivalent, overall power average will be close to four hours per barrel, and average wind speed will probably be around 8-10 hours per barrel.

Those are ~200' tall windmills with 3 ~100' blades to give an idea of the size of a 1.3MWh windmill.

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teff torbes | 3 years, 5 months ago Report

You're welcome. I had fun looking everything up and learned a bit myself :D

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arous | 3 years, 5 months ago
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Don't know if this helps. One cubic mile of oil = 32,850 1.65 megawatt wind turbines, cranking for 50 years (100% capacity factor). So says this site...

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callcentercowboy | 3 years, 5 months ago Report

Well that's more information than I had before. Thanks for the link. If my division is correct than 1 barrel of oil would produce the same amount of energy as a 1 megawatt windmill running at 35% capacity for 1 and 2/3 days.
Unless somebody refutes that, it's close enough for me. Let's give it until tomorrow and see what else we see. Thanks arous!

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sukka | 3 years, 5 months ago
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Energy content in one barrel of oil (Joules) is 6.1 * 10 ^ 9

so, a windmill produces watts that are Joule/second (maybe 25000J/second) see wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind_power

So just calculate average windpowerplant where you live (*.fi here:)



http://www.ocean.washington.edu/courses/envir215/energynumbers.pdf (even abstract gives very good idea what we're talking about...)

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natmaka | 3 years, 5 months ago
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In the provided comparisons the wind turbine produces immediately useful energy (electricity), whereas the barrel of oil has to be converted into some form of usable energy. Therefore a comparison of usefulness must lower the oil figure, probably by multiplying it by at most .4

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wolfgangsieger | 3 years, 3 months ago Report

The figure represents burning the crude as is. Converting it would produce fuel producing more energy which will more than offset the effort of conversion or no one in their right mind would do it. The long and short of it is, exploiting our oil reserves produces more bang for the buck. And that at an environmental footprint much less than any currently proposed alternatives.

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williamwaco | 3 years, 5 months ago
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Depends on the size of the windmill.

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moebeus | 3 years, 5 months ago
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If the figures in the second answer are right for 1.65 megawatt windmills, then it would take .66 minutes.

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