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Spitzer: "I thought Obama will be another FDR" ... Don't they remember how much FDR loved fascists?

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buddawiggi buddawiggi
 
October 11, 2009 11:07 PM | view on twitter
Franklin Delano Roosevelt was not a fascist and he was not supportive of the fascists. These accusations were by right wing politicians and commentators who were fearful of his policies similar to how Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, et al of today confront current US President Barack Obama with similar accusations. Truly and clearly neither President is or ever was a fascist.

Even this Wikipedia article about the subject has the disclaimer " the article does not present a neutral point of view " and was most likely written by modern day versions of Charles E. Coughlin a FDR era opponent of the New Deal who broadcast his opinions against President Roosevelt in the 1930's on the radio, again similar to modern day opponents of Barack Obama.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Franklin_D._Roosevelt

Many parallels can be drawn between the time of President Roosevelt and the present, lets just pray that it does not lead the world to war again as in the past and President Obama learns from the examples and lessons of the past by following through with the promise and potential that earned him the Nobel Peace Prize in 2009.

Source(s):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Franklin_D._Roosevelt
http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/article.php?lang=en&ModuleId=10005516
http://vlib.iue.it/carrie/reference/worldhistory/sections/30depres.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism
http://www.middle-east-online.com/english/?id=34849


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janbilyk janbilyk
 
October 11, 2009 11:42 PM
"FDR is a warm-hearted leader of people with a profound understanding of social needs" - Voelkischer Beobachter, 1934

"congratulations on heroic efforts in the interests of the American people. The President's successful battle against economic distress is being followed by the entire German people with interest and admiration" - Adolf Hitler in private letter to FDR

"Moral demands which the President (=FDR) places before every individual citizen in the United States are also the quintessence of the German state philosophy, which finds its expression in the slogan 'The Public Weal Transcends the Interest of the Individual" - Adolf Hitler to William Dodd, US Ambassador in Nazi Germany

"The appeal to the decisiveness and masculine sobriety of the nation's youth. with which Roosevelt here calls his readers to battle, is reminiscent of the ways and means by which Fascism awakened the Italian people - Mussolini on FDR's book - 'Looking Forward'

"that admirable Italian gentleman" - FDR on Mussolini

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buddawiggi buddawiggi
 
October 12, 2009 12:16 AM
All of these quotes could be filed under "Be careful what you say as it may be used after you are dead to imply that you loved fascists"
All of them are out of context and not sourced.

The first from a Nazi propaganda newspaper is easily dismissed as exactly that, propaganda. It is likely designed to show the readers on Nazi Germany's desire to be friends with the west and inspire confidence in it's propaganda.

The second is what any world leader would say of a successful US President if pressed to his people to explain why his country was either succeeding or not. It is purely diplomatic propaganda designed as public rhetoric and in no way displays former President Roosevelt's feelings about fascists or fascism.

The third is again a purely diplomatic statement said to a US Ambassador in Germany and is transparent in it's bias. Most importantly the statement says nothing about how former President Roosevelt feels about fascism or fascists.

The fourth is a comparison made by another world leader wishing to show his people that he could be as successful as the American President by drawing parallels between himself former President Roosevelt. It is a book review, nothing more and again does nothing to support your claim that Roosevelt loved fascists or fascism.

And the last shows that Roosevelt admired Mussolini nothing more it is not dated and is taken out of context. There is no indication of a desire to express love or why Roosevelt admired him at all.

Do you have any quotes that would support directly that Franklin Delano Roosevelt "loved the fascists"? A direct quote would do as the man is not here to debate his feelings with you himself.

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buddawiggi buddawiggi
 
October 12, 2009 12:37 AM
I also believe you a merely *inferring* what you want to think from these quotes. Trying to be deliberately argumentative and the way I see it these quotes do nothing at all to describe FDR's feelings *at all*, *on anything*.

By what you are inferring these quotes and your manipulation of them only go to show the lengths people will go to detract from the success of someone they disagree with. (i. e. You and your obvious bias against President Obama)

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buddawiggi buddawiggi
 
October 20, 2009 12:35 PM
I see by selecting no best answer I am correct in my deductions of your inferences and quote manipulation. In the future if you are just looking to vent your opinion on a topic choose a different forum with a format the more suits your needs. Mahalo is a question and answer forum.

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