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December 17, 2008 07:46 PM

Does a "college education" truly ready one for future life, or are we simply "checking a box" society requires?

A lot of money goes into the degree. Are we getting our moneys worth? In other words, does it really cost $25,000 a year to provide someone a piece of paper so they can then enter the workforce and say "now teach me what I really need to know".

Wouldn't intense training that is "targeted" toward the career field be a better investment?
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December 17, 2008 08:18 PM
As a recent graduate from a top university, I have to say that I haven't learned anything in college that is obviously applicable to the real world. I was a political science major and I mostly learned different theories that I can use to analyze real world events but not actual "workplace" skills.

But readily applicable does not mean that college is useless. You develop certain skills in college that you don't anywhere else like critical thinking and writing, reasoning, handling enormous workloads, analysis, and formal ways of argumentation. College is also a place where one is exposed to many ways of thinking and opportunities you don't get anywhere else. I was able to study abroad as well as meet extremely interesting people.

While college didn't teach me "practical" skills, I think it gives me an edge in the sense that the college experience gives one certain intangible skills you really can't get anywhere else. While I'm probably never going to use my knowledge about nation-building in Europe, I can definitely say that the analytical skills I developed writing dozens of papers will help me in any job.

Having been to college definitely gives potential employees a certain "it" factor that non-graduates might not have.
And in the case of graduates of prestigious universities like myself, it definitely gives an advantage in terms of having acquired a "brand name education".

Anyone that is able and willing should go to college. The experience is priceless and unlike anything else in life.

*Sorry about my ridiculously long answer* :-)
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December 17, 2008 07:59 PM
Experts still disagree on this. The "gap" in income between college graduates and non-college graduates is shrinking, though graduates still earn a hefty percentage (about 90%) more than those who didn't study at university.

Even those who still promote the benefits of a college education encourage potential students to analyze their desired career path and decide if a higher education is really necessary. For example, if you want to become a doctor, then many years of school is a prerequisite. If you want to write and direct feature films, there are many great film programs available, but it's not really necessary, and the debt can be huge (Spielberg made millions and won a couple of Oscars without a college degree.)

I've attached a few articles that discuss the issue. The Chicago Tribune sees both sides of the issue. Forbes magazine actually discourages potential students from going to college.
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http://archives.chicagotribune.com/2008/oct/14/business/chi-college-costs-1...
http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2006/0327/039.html


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December 17, 2008 08:02 PM
I work at a University and have students who work for me as my crew. I'm the Video Production Manager. I have had students who have quit school because they either ran out money or got offered a position somewhere and figured they had enough experience. So why get a degree? One of the biggest things that I can think of is because it proves you can start something and finish it. No matter how tedious, boring or mind numbing it can be. You took the time to learn, to learn how to learn and understand how to present something to someone else, on yours or their terms. I tell my production students, you go out for your first job and someone has more experience. Most likely the experienced person will get the job. But years later, you have experience, the other person has experience and a higher level or manger position opens. You have a degree, they don't. Most likely you will get the job.
One more thing to think about. Most people change their career path more than once or twice in their lifetime. Intense training on one career locks you down. A general education with a focus and experience in career leaves you in a better situation to expand or change.

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December 17, 2008 08:11 PM
I think there are a lot of good reasons for going to college that do not necessarily translate directly to the bottom line.

I am an intrinsic enjoyer of knowledge. To a certain extent, I like to learn for learning's sake. Some of that happens in college. It may seem like "going through hoops" to some, but it allows a lot of exposure to different ideas, concepts, and classes that someone wouldn't have otherwise been exposed to.

Another consideration is maturity. A lot of people are not ready for future life straight out of high school. College can help them explore what they want to do and give them a few years to "grow up."

For me, I'm not in the field that my degree is in, but I picked up a ton of transferable skills from my college degree and experience. Those skills have allowed me to work in a number of different fields and change careers without any paid retraining so far. I've certainly gotten on the job training from the jobs I've worked, but having a good, broad skill set to start with (and the previously mentioned intrinsic love of learning) really helped.

So, I think that a college education can be helpful. No, it's not for everyone, and no, it doesn't always (or often) practically prepare you for real life. But I think an exclusive focus on a "trade" such as a trade school is not where the future of education lies.

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December 17, 2008 08:11 PM
I think there are different things college teaches you other than what your diploma states. I learned how to think quickly and think on my own. This may sound very lame and a "text book answer", but I truly believe it. Having professors put me on the spot to think outside the box has readied me for my life in the "real world". I do think college readies you for the rest of your life.

Even may find a significant other there as well...

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December 17, 2008 08:14 PM
IMHO...college doesn't prepare you to step straight into a job. You don't get that diploma and instantly become an expert. Instead, it gives you a solid foundation to build your future experiences on, while giving needed information to start down that path. This is probably one of the main reasons employers will take school or equivalent experience.

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December 17, 2008 08:45 PM
it depends on what you would like to do. but in general there are two ways to enter a profession.

1. going to college can give you some education and show future employers that your are ready to enter the workforce. many employers feel that a college degree shows that you can deal with bureaucracy and work with other to get things done. there are many entry level jobs that will train you (banking, finance, sales, insurance) at their expense after you have a college degree.

2. apprenticing or interning in a specific field to learn a trade can be very valuable also. learning a trade by working 1 and 1 with somebody can be very fulfilling, but the limitations are that if you ever want to change jobs,you probably need to go to school to make the switch. this is the problem facing many older workers who work blue collar jobs. its pretty hard to find other "skilled" work outside your area of expertise.

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December 17, 2008 09:24 PM
A Nobel prize-winning economist has shown that finishing college could very well be more about revealing that you are *already* a person who has the qualities to thrive in "the real world," as opposed to preparing you for it.

So, aside from gaining basic knowledge, college might just be "checking a box that society requires."
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information_asymmetry#Signaling


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December 17, 2008 09:47 PM
Interesting question...the problem with intense, targeted training programs is that they are very narrow. As others have noted, if you have a change of heart and decide you don't want to be a mason, but you'd rather be a carpenter or write code for a living, the retraining necessary is substantial and prohibitive for someone that may already have family obligations among other things.

College didn't prepare me for the real world...my upbringing did that. College DID expose me to a lot of different ideas, different people, and interesting subjects I would not be able to explore anywhere else. It taught me to think in different ways and gave me great analytical tools that have benefited thus far. A degree in economics and international studies didn't teach me how to work in logistics, conduct statistical analyses, or build databases, but I have done all these things in the last 11 years. My experience in college was invaluable for giving me the adaptability and the skills to do varied work like this.

However...and this is a big however...I currently work at a large state university and I see many students come through our doors that really do not belong here. They do not have the desire to learn nor the inclination to really work for a degree...and further, they are unprepared due to inadequate education at the secondary level. These are students that are "checking the box" and they are unlikely to get any true benefit from a college education. 59% of our students DO NOT GRADUATE. For these students, they are being served an injustice. They are better off finding a trade, occupation, or other work rather than wasting their time and substantial money here.

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December 20, 2008 05:35 AM
College doesn't necessarily teach you what you need to know in preparation to enter the world of work. Sure, you learn a bunch of basics that come in handy, but you'll probably learn more in the first two months on the job than you did in four years as an undergraduate.

The value of college is learning how to learn. Your experiences cramming for an exam, researching in the library, and interacting with your peers on an academic level will teach you how to process information and work with others to produce a meaningful result. College is a great starting point because it gives you these tools. Learning is a lifelong journey.

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