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M$2.05 September 14, 2009 02:05 AM

Kaiser Vs. Blue Cross, which should I get?

My family is deciding whether or not to get Kaiser or Blue Cross. We're all in good health, and we don't often find ourselves going to the doctor.

Both are the same distance from our house, and money should not be a concern. In our experience Kaiser has slightly better doctors (although Blue Cross has good ones as well) for the few times we've gone to the ear, eye, and general doctor's office.

My main concern would be for something more serious. God forbid someone needs more than this general, basic care, is either Kaiser or Blue Cross superior?

What are your thoughts? Kaiser or Blue Cross?
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September 14, 2009 07:35 AM
I've had both Kaiser HMO and Blue Cross PPO for quite a few years (not at the same time) and these are the pros and cons as I see them:

Kaiser HMO:
Pros:
*probably cheapest for similar coverage
*huge organization so you can get appointments on short notice
*dispense antibiotics like candy

Cons:
*Long wait in lobby (i.e. doctor sees you long after scheduled appointment)
*Lobby is usually packed with potentially contagious sick people
*Rarely if ever able to see your assigned doctor
*Can take months before they let you see a specialist
*Can take months or years before they let you try expensive medicines
*May send you to different locations for each appointment
*Often see a "nurse practioner" instead of a doctor
*Rarely see the same doctor twice so they never know your medical history

Blue Cross PPO:
Pros:
*Can have whatever drugs and treatments your doctor recommends providing you can afford it
*huge selection of doctors to choose from
*easy to find a doctor that won't keep you waiting in lobby forever
*easy to find a doctor that you can actually see and build history with
*easy to get referred to a specialist

Cons:
*More expensive insurance, especially if you want low deductibles
*Patient often pays more for services, treatments and medicine

If you are on a tight budget and mostly want insurance so that you get get antibiotics for the occasional bacterial infection or treatment for an unexpected accident, Kaiser seems OK.

If you have any chronic long term conditions and don't want to have to fight tooth and nail to see a specialist or use the latest and most expensive cutting edge drugs, treatments and diagnostic equipment, Blue Cross seems better. Example: If you like an expensive allergy medicine that isn't yet available in generic, you can usually get it without a fuss from Blue Cross, but might not ever get it from Kaiser (at least not without several months or more of fighting and trying things that don't work as well).

The above is entirely based on my experiences using each insurance as a regular patient (I'm not an expert). A lot of plans are available from these companies, so others might have different experiences. Blue Cross has many PPO plans and some HMO plans, and I've only tried a few of their PPO plans. Based on my experience and conversations with others, Blue Cross PPO seems to give you much more control over your medical care if you can afford it.

In your situation, I liked a Blue Cross PPO with a super high deductible as it kept my premiums down. When I used Blue Cross I went to the doctor rarely, so paying $50-$80 for a visit in place of a $15 copay didn't bother me. This is one way to give you more control over your care, avoid the HMO hassle yet still be covered against major emergencies.


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September 14, 2009 07:18 AM
Kaiser is great usually when it comes to health care. Especially since you don't have to worry to much about going to a clinic often, that's more money in your wallet. Most you have to worry about when it comes to kaiser is a $15 dollar fee for just coming but it practically covers everything except prescriptions (only certain types) But other than that, my family uses kaiser often. I would highly recommend it but please, research the family deals and see which you like best. I don't know much about blue cross, so can't really help you there.

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September 14, 2009 08:36 AM
Well, I'll assume you know the difference between and HMO and a PPO, for starters. I have a Blue Shield PPO, very much like Blue Cross. If I get an ear ache, I go see a specialist. I don't like the idea of having to see a GP first to get the recommendation for the specialist. In dire circumstances, it can be a matter of getting the help you need quickly, or making your condition worse while you wait for approval and then the two appointments. So, long answer, but I would choose Blue Cross. Besides - they have a lot of plans to choose from, so you can keep the cost down. Hope this helps!
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September 14, 2009 05:23 PM
When I had Blue Cross, I had a HMO though. How'd that work? Perhaps what you have is more expensive?

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September 14, 2009 05:42 PM
Commenting on your question below - Yes, Blue Cross and Blue Shield have either the HMO or PPO options. Kaiser does not - HMO only. This is why it is less expensive, not to mention their massive network which helps keep costs down.

I can only cite what other people, insured through Kaiser, have told me. They feel it's a real red-tape battle to get the actual care they need if it's something specific that a GP cannot treat. Again, this is hearsay, not my personal experience. And it was a long time ago.

With the Internet, you should be able to access the websites of both companies, compare services and costs, and make the choice that's best for you. Yes, the PPO is more expensive, but it saves me a lot of time. You might want to check your physician of choice and see if he or she even accepts patients with and HMO versus a PPO. It's all about what's best for you, since people and their insurance needs vary widely. Hope this helps.

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September 14, 2009 01:40 PM
i think you get kaiser. Kaiser is the best health insurance company and you can save your money and it will accumulate interest within 15 years of saving.


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September 14, 2009 05:21 PM
What makes Kaiser "the best health insurance company?"

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September 14, 2009 10:12 PM
depending on affordability, which is always a factor, but i would go w/ the blue cross-i 've had 3 different policies over the years and i think they are the best....never had any trouble with payments etc.

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