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M$1 December 28, 2008 10:14 PM

Do you agree the requirement to show an ID before purchasing some over-the-counter cold and allergy medicines?

For those of you not in the states, this FDA article explains what I'm talking about: http://www.fda.gov/fdac/features/2006/406_meth.html

Now, here's why I am asking. I recently went to pick up my prescription and some cold medicine. Because I forgot my license in the car, I could not purchase the cold medicine. I could pick up my prescription. Here's the kicker: my prescription is for Adderall XR. Adderall XR is a combination of amphetamines. So I need a d.l. to buy a drug used to make methamphetamines, but not to purchase amphetamines. Yes, that sounds like government logic in action.

I've been on the drug for over 10 years. I am never asked for my ID. However, I am required for cold medicine. When I went to another store to pick up the cold medicine, it took them 5 minutes to fill out all the paperwork.

Does anyone have any evidence that this system is working? I think there would be a lot of ways of working around it (fake I.D.s, buying overseas, etc.)
Has anyone ever been arrested for purchasing too much cold medicine?
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December 29, 2008 05:11 AM
I think if you are picking up a reasonable dose for a medicine (say, one month's worth) of an over-the-counter drug, then you should be able to pick it up as before (with no id.) If you are picking up more than that, you shouldn't be allowed. If someone notices you picking up continual supplies, then they should be able to report you and have the police investigate. However, it is a case of the government intruding on people's lives. It is a typical over reaction to the problem. If you have a problem, instead of finding the problem and fixing it by going after the criminals and punishing them, we (you, they <- pick a subject) make up a law that makes us feel safer without providing any actual relief. (I'm not seeing any graphs indicating meth use has gone down.) Actual relief would be increasing budgets to police. But that would cost money.

I think this would be like outlawing knives because they've been proven to hurt children. The problem is the person hurting the children and not the knives. When the knives (the domestic ephedrines) are taken away, the person just buys a different weapon (or drug) or gets a different knife from Mexico (international meth). I'm having some problems finding decreased use of meth due to this law. Perhaps we need a statistician. (Of course, my analogy could be flawed.)
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http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/meth/etc/cron.html

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• While there were some good answers, this was the only article that showed me evidence that limiting pseudoephedrine my have had an impact somewhere.


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December 28, 2008 10:32 PM
I do not see a problem with asking for an ID for these items as a form of keeping them out of the hands of minors, for their own protection. At the same time I would think it is extremely important that prescription drugs require an ID just to make sure the person is who they are suppose to be (I have always been required to show ID when picking up prescriptions in Ohio... maybe this is state by state?)

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December 28, 2008 10:34 PM
I am not a doctor, but I agree you should show your identity for these purchases, as some people abuse these products. I also believe since some of these products contain alcohol, it's important to make sure that these products are not being sold to minors. You may want to consult with your doctor, or a site like American Well http://www.americanwell.com for medical related questions.

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December 28, 2008 10:58 PM
It works as a safegaurd against people who may otherwise want to make meth, which I think everyone would agree is a good thing.

Yes it is at the inconvenience of everyone who just has a cold, but I honestly can't recall being bothered by it in the past, and if more drug problems could be solved with simple inconvenience on my part I'd be happy to participate.

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December 28, 2008 11:07 PM
This signup thing because of sudafed and meth production seems silly. Obviously, 1. It's being produced in bulk by people in other ways. And 2. they could put the ID system right at registers, rather than at the pharmacy.

That being said, unlike, say, Pot, alcohol, or nicotine, which are relatively harmless in terms of addicition/family destruction.... Meth, it just a horrible, life destroying drug. So, even though it's silly...in the end, the mild benefits of sudafed over the alternatives aren't enough to justify "open" sales of sudafed.

So, in a sense, I have to disagree with this article.
http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=3855
The reason I disagree is the author wants it both ways. He wants to say "home" production wasn't that big to begin with. Then, he wants to say the sign-ups will force up prices and increase cartels.

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December 28, 2008 11:51 PM
The other day I had to pick up some Mucinex from a local drug store (which contains pseudoephedrine), and had to show my ID and sign an agreement basically saying I'd promise not to use the stuff to manufacture anything illegal (e.g. methamphetamine). Not a big deal to me, but I guess it speaks to how rampant the meth problem has become.

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December 29, 2008 01:12 AM
My city had/has a very large problem with Meth made from OTC medicines and materials, and making us fill out the form for them hasn't really slowed the problem down. As someone who suffers from allergies 365/24/7, I find it very obtrusive and not at all good customer service. And since meth is still wide spread, it obviously doesn't need to happen. When people realize that drugs can not be stopped with more legislation, then possibly a better solution will be found. And the more the government gets involved the more messed up everything becomes! But that is my view and not the policy of all.

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December 29, 2008 03:09 AM
I can't understand why your pharmacy doesn't make you sign for the Adderal xr. It's a schedule class 2 narcotic and has to have a written script and a signature for every refill according to the laws in most states. If I'm not being too nosy, what state do you live in Darcy?

I definitely agree with requiring signatures for many cold medicines, even though waiting in a long line at the pharmacy can be a bear when you're sick. One small step in trying to stop the meth craze.

http://www.tsbp.state.tx.us/consumer/broch2.htm

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December 29, 2008 03:36 AM
From a methamphedamine enforcement perspective I think it does nothing.
Unfortunately there are many fake IDs out there even if they were attempting to track sales. IDs that are real, but are not the actual person (likeness considered or not) are commonly used by people who are underage to buy alcohol... Something similar could easily happen here. Truely fake IDs are rampent online. I have heard that people who try to manufacture simply go from store to store, or order by mail order / online. From a sick person's perspective, it is slightly annoying to show your ID when you need something that you are just trying to get to help you breathe and function. The subsitute they sell without pseudoephedrine in it doesn't quite work as well when I can't breathe and I have a cold.

The answer to your question is that I don't agree. The proof of policy failure is either already there, or will come in the form of statistics for production, busts, and meth related deaths in the future.

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December 29, 2008 08:55 PM
I think it's ridiculous too! From what I've heard, it's not working to reduce drug use, which is the goal. It might reduce local production of the drugs, but we just import it instead. I suppose it could make neighborhoods safer so meth labs aren't blowing up, but I find it ridiculous. Dr Dean Edell's radio show has addressed this on occasion.

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December 30, 2008 07:03 AM
Personally, I think that the FDA's control on the amount of cold medicine in your shopping bag is absurd. The people who have meth labs in their houses have ways of getting their hands on the ingredients, whether the FDA puts restrictions on the amount stores can sell or not. The only thing they are doing is annoying consumers, hindering the store's business, and reducing drug companies' sales.

The reason you could buy the Adderall XR and not the cold medicine is simple. The FDA requires all purchase and driver's license information to be logged for pseudoephedrine purchases. This way, the FDA can track purchases. It is illegal for a pharmacy to sell you Advil Cold and Sinus, etc without logging your driver's license information. Nothing like this is required for Adderall XR.

In addition to that, my own store's registers will not allow anything with pseudoephedrine onto the receipt without a physical swipe of a driver's license through the card reader.

To answer your questions, I don't see any reason why a customer should be required to show an ID to buy anything with pseudoephedrine in it. I've never seen the system do anything but fail, and I've never heard of anyone being arrested for purchasing too much of the drug.

Hope some of that helps!
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My own experiences as a pharmacy technician.


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